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Thread ID: 82773	2007-09-07 08:31:00	Naked DSL and ISPs Own Equipment	pctek (84)	PC World Chat

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588855	2007-09-07 08:31:00	Telecoms spin is naked DSL will only happen when another ISP installs their own equipment in an exchange, thus it will only be available for those people on those exchanges until such time as more have equipment added. Wki says: In regular DSL, a wire is run from the telephone switch to a piece of equipment called a Plain Old Telephone Service (POTS) splitter. The POTS splitter separates the DSL and voice bands and then a wire carrying both services runs from the splitter to the cable head, where it continues on to the customer on outside plant. In naked DSL the portion of cable from the switch to the splitter is removed, therefore removing dial tone from the line. It is possible that the customer would have dial tone through a Competitive Local Exchange Carrier (CLEC) instead of the local telco (ILEC), or that they use cellular service or VOIP exclusively in place of a traditional land line. And: www.ispanz.org.nz/pdf/ISPANZ_position_paper-Naked_DSL.pdf No technical changes to Telecoms network are required.......its a matter of Telecom separating it from their billing system.	pctek (84)
588856	2007-09-07 09:11:00	They have to be a belligerent stick in the mud some how.	winmacguy (3367)
588857	2007-09-07 10:09:00	Telecoms spin is naked DSL will only happen when another ISP installs their own equipment in an exchange, thus it will only be available for those people on those exchanges until such time as more have equipment added. Telecom have already said that they will wholesale Naked DSL. What spin are you talking about? I see Diprose in the PDF continues the mistake of saying that the saving will be ~$40 for the phone line ignoring that a portion of that amount covers the cable pair and will continue to be charged.	PaulD (232)
588858	2007-09-07 21:59:00	"The UBA service provides companies seeking access with options to obtain wholesale services from Telecom so they can supply a greater range of services to their customers," . " They may choose to invest in infrastructure, by renting the copper local loop and installing their equipment in Telecom's exchanges, or they may choose to buy wholesale bitstream services from Telecom, adding value to them before on-selling," . Access seekers may now choose to supply UBA-based services without a traditional phone service (Naked DSL).	pctek (84)
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