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Thread ID: 82841 2007-09-10 04:01:00 Looks like the Labour government wants to make the unemployment stats look lower... somebody (208) PC World Chat
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589731 2007-09-10 04:01:00 www.nzherald.co.nz somebody (208)
589732 2007-09-10 04:15:00 Extend the gravy train and increase the cost to the NZ tax payer, get more low/no income votes and piss off the middle and upper income brackets who will be funding this exercise with their taxes. Yay NOT!:groan: winmacguy (3367)
589733 2007-09-10 06:07:00 Ouch... This government's gotta go :groan:. Not that National is brilliant, but anything's better than the current lot! Erayd (23)
589734 2007-09-10 09:27:00 Ouch... This government's gotta go :groan:. Not that National is brilliant, but anything's better than the current lot!

Be careful what you wish for
Greven (91)
589735 2007-09-10 10:59:00 Wasn't long ago the remarkable rise in sickness & invalids beneficiaries was a scandal and criteria were being toughened (or said to be). I agree this is a cynical attempt to soak up at least some people who might otherwise be a more embarrasing stat in the run-up to the next election, given the potential for an economic down cycle between now & then. For some reason "unemployment" takes on a bigger significance than an overall 'not working' type statistic.

I have to agree it's time for a change, whatever demons await us. Clark & Cullen had an above-the-law and born-to-rule mentality BEFORE they had the reins for 9 years. Now they are getting insufferable. Been a loooong time since I voted national...
mmmork (6822)
589736 2007-09-10 21:37:00 What the heck is this supposed to mean?


The Government hopes the changes will allow disabled people or those with ill health to participate in the community.
FoxyMX (5)
589737 2007-09-10 22:00:00 They mean that everyone and his dog will be on long-term paid leave and will now have the free time to join more social clubs, sports groups etc. All financed of course from the pockets of those of us who actually work for a living. Erayd (23)
589738 2007-09-15 20:27:00 Look look look: www.nzherald.co.nz somebody (208)
589739 2007-09-15 20:51:00 I think it is a little more complex than is being assumed - understandable given the shoddy standards of journalism we are "blessed with" in Godzone.

Over the past year or two the gumberment has introduced a number of schemes because of concern about the number of people who have got onto invalids and sickness benefits when they should have been employed, or if not they should have been on the unemployment benefit.

One scheme is related to the appointment of a whole raft of people in WINZ whose job it is to get people off sickness and unemployment benefits and back to work, using supported employment techniques.

Secondly, the gumberment announced a month or so ago a scheme whereby people on sickness and invalids benefits could "jump the queue" to get onto hospital surgery lists if it was only an operation that was stopping them getting back into a job. There was the predictable public outcry about that of course, but it looked to me as though it was cheap at the price.

So maybe they are making it easier for people to get on to sickness and invalid's benefits, but they have these other schemes lined up to get them off again as quickly as possible.
John H (8)
589740 2007-09-15 20:54:00 As far as I know the unemployment stats are not related to the numbers of people on benefits .

To find out the unemployment figures they survey people on whether they are in paid work or looking for a job . If they are wanting work or are looking for a job and are not employed then they are counted as being unemployed . If they are unemployed but not looking for work then they are not counted .

It's got nothing to do with whether someone is on the dole or sickness benefit .
FoxyMX (5)
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