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| Thread ID: 82986 | 2007-09-15 00:26:00 | Microsoft Patents Uncrackable DRM | intel hunter (6666) | PC World Chat |
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| 591324 | 2007-09-15 00:26:00 | Don't know if anyone has seen this but it doesn't look good. :yuck: Read here www.informationweek.com |
intel hunter (6666) | ||
| 591325 | 2007-09-15 00:37:00 | Don't know if anyone has seen this but it doesn't look good. :yuck: Read here www.informationweek.com I mentioned this "watermarking" technology a while back and nobody believed me...I got called paranoid and such then.... forums.pcworld.co.nz I thoroughly recommend that copies of Audacity get downloaded ASAP....it's not long until it too gets corrupted. |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 591326 | 2007-09-15 00:39:00 | Like it says in the article, this technology isn't the whole picture. In of itself, theres no encryption to crack, its just watermarking i.e. place of origin. I don't get the whole "analog hole has been patched" point though. And as always, never say never. | sal (67) | ||
| 591327 | 2007-09-15 00:44:00 | Like it says in the article, this technology isn't the whole picture . In of itself, theres no encryption to crack, its just watermarking i . e . place of origin . I don't get the whole "analog hole has been patched" point though . And as always, never say never . That analog patch thing is likely to be the process of streaming the sounds and copying them with a program like . . . er . . . say: "Audacity" fer instance . . . . . and that way not encoding the watermark . Looks like the whole world is in the hands of M$ and it's bride, the MPAA/RIAA and the resultant evil spawn of that marriage . |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 591328 | 2007-09-15 01:15:00 | The analog thing was my first thought. It means basically line out -> line in via analog, losing any digital information in the file. But this apparently can survive analog conversion. You could put it on a cassette tape and the watermark would still be there... Really, though, it's not a huge problem. There's nothing there that stops people playing the file in VLC or something anyway. |
george12 (7) | ||
| 591329 | 2007-09-15 01:23:00 | No, I know what analog conversion means (I'm not stupid), but that the watermark survives is what I was wondering about. Surely you can just reduce it down to audible signals. Hmm, maybe I am stupid. | sal (67) | ||
| 591330 | 2007-09-15 01:24:00 | Linux. | Metla (12) | ||
| 591331 | 2007-09-15 02:11:00 | No, I know what analog conversion means (I'm not stupid), but that the watermark survives is what I was wondering about . Surely you can just reduce it down to audible signals . Hmm, maybe I am stupid . Not stupid . . . just let's think about this for a while . . . . . . If we clip off the upper and lower freqs . . . those that are above and beyond human hearing . . . then there may NOT be any signatures left on the track . I know that there's gonna be a loss of warmth and depth to audiophiles . . but at my age, I am gonna be reading lips soon anyway . s long as I can get it in stereo I'll prolly be happy . |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 591332 | 2007-09-15 02:25:00 | Doesn't matter what protection is put in any audio /video track sooner or later (normally sooner) someone will find a work around . How may times has "Uncrackable Security" been put out and then "hellooooo" heres a bypass ? - Till next time:D |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 591333 | 2007-09-15 03:46:00 | Uncrackable. Hmmm..... I've done some work in this area and often claims of 'uncrackable' are based on certain assumptions. It looks to me like there would be some sort of indicator within the music file itself to indicate the starting and ending position of the watermark. Therein lies a lever..... Secondly, they use a PRNG which is, according to the encryption industry, not entirely random so therein likes another lever...... Thirdly, it sounds like you have to use software that makes use of the watermark technology. I can see that as being the biggest hurdle to actually get this to work. .....all in all I'd say this will eventually be a storm in a teacup..... |
andrew93 (249) | ||
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