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Thread ID: 82955 2007-09-14 04:43:00 Who Has the Oil zqwerty (97) PC World Chat
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591059 2007-09-14 04:43:00 From the blog: This little image shows the reason for so many things in this world…"

www.blog.thesietch.org
zqwerty (97)
591060 2007-09-14 04:45:00 crikey.

if it help ive got the oil too - about 5 litres

and a oil filter too

my cars getting an oil change tomorrow :p
MAC_H8ER (5897)
591061 2007-09-14 06:04:00 i read in the listener that peak oil is meant to hit in about 5 years - when demand surpasses supply:eek: motorbyclist (188)
591062 2007-09-14 06:32:00 Theres plenty of oil out there. It's just scaremongering. The oil company's are making a killing out of it!! :( :( :angry

My personal opinion, anyway. If we were really running out of oil, there would be a lot more hybrid/hydrogen cars around. No money in it for the oil company's with those, but if we haven't got any oil, no ones got a choice!! Meh. Theres oil out there.
wratterus (105)
591063 2007-09-14 06:42:00 we won't run out of oil for another 50 years, but the price will double over the next decade

it is a finite resource and we are completely dependant on it - imagine if iran decided to stop exporting - we need to reduce our dependance.

without oil we can't even make plastic - and that's almost everything you own including your clothes and wiring insulation

if we went to 100% biofuel the world wouldn't be able to feed itself

the technology for electric cars has been around since the dawn of the automobile, but the oil companies bought them all and binned them (true - google/wiki it)

in an electric world, inner city pollution would be near zero and the only traffic noise would be tyres on road and NZ (and the uk and the us and aussie etcetc) would not be dependant on imported oil


atleast NZ has food security (can feed ourselves) - if shipping costs increase the cost of food in the uk will go with it.

i promise you that over the next decade we will see a mojor shift towards electric vehicles - even in china they have started manufacturers as their growth outstrips their oil supply - heck, even in the states tesla motors has put out a car rivalling a lambo for performance with a 400km range and they are planning a family car soon
motorbyclist (188)
591064 2007-09-14 21:50:00 "the technology for electric cars has been around since the dawn of the automobile, but the oil companies bought them all and binned them (true - google/wiki it)

in an electric world, inner city pollution would be near zero and the only traffic noise would be tyres on road and NZ (and the uk and the us and aussie etcetc) would not be dependant on imported oil"

So may I ask? What do you recommend this "Electric World" uses to generate the required amount of electricity to charge up the electric cars.
In New Zealand we have Hydro, Thermal, Coal, Wind and Solar. We do not use Nuclear. Well not yet anyway.

I hope you love your new electric powered motorbike BTW.

We could also go back to the likes of steam engines as in the stanley steamer. Uses coal to fire up a boiler and the resultant energy allows the vehicle to move. Or people could actually walk to work. There might even be a market for a horse and carriage set up.
Sweep (90)
591065 2007-09-14 23:27:00 These stats are a couple of years out of date but pretty telling nonetheless:
www.infoplease.com

The US consumed (in absolute terms) more oil than the next 5 highest consumers combined, with a population base of 10% of the top 6 oil consuming countries.
andrew93 (249)
591066 2007-09-14 23:29:00 Oh and where is Canada on the original picture? According to this website:
www.infoplease.com
they should be number 2. So one of them must be wrong......
andrew93 (249)
591067 2007-09-15 01:09:00 Well the problem in Canada is that oil has to be extracted from the tar sands and thus it really is too expensive until oil prices make it economically feasible. They have proper oil fields too though. beeswax34 (63)
591068 2007-09-15 05:13:00 So may I ask? What do you recommend this "Electric World" uses to generate the required amount of electricity to charge up the electric cars.
In New Zealand we have Hydro, Thermal, Coal, Wind and Solar. We do not use Nuclear. Well not yet anyway.

I hope you love your new electric powered motorbike BTW.

We could also go back to the likes of steam engines as in the stanley steamer. Uses coal to fire up a boiler and the resultant energy allows the vehicle to move. Or people could actually walk to work. There might even be a market for a horse and carriage set up.

1: it's actually cleaner to burn coal to power electric cars (apparently) than it is to run them on pertrol as we do now. i should imagine that coal will atleast run a few hundred years more than oil, so from a sustainability POV it's not too bad.

nuclear shares with oil the problem that we would still be dependant on imported resource, along with all the greenies and nimby factor (if we can't even put in pylons how do we intend to put in a nuclear plant?) - but from a pollution and environmental POV it's the best option out there provided you don't mind burying the waste over in aussi (i dont:thumbs:)

2: i plan to be building it this summer using a rolling fxr150 chassis. i just don't have the time during the uni semester to even get some drawings ready

3: we could at the cost of our modern way of life and sustainability of our large cities, but i see electric as the way forward - as it is, 90% of the world's motors are electric and distribution is hardly a problem, whereas biofuel is going to be a disaster (unless you are a mechanic, truck driver, current car manufacturer etc etc
motorbyclist (188)
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