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Thread ID: 83064 2007-09-18 04:32:00 Apple (mac) slack with security JSF_enthusiast (8536) PC World Chat
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592297 2007-09-18 10:45:00 I just prefer accurate reporting.If we all lived in a perfect world, you would get your accurate reporting, and I would never have to hear anymore about "Mac does this", and "mac does that" ... "macs are gods gift to the human race" blah de blah
You're a fool for believing the media will report things accurately; whereas I'm just hopeful :D
Myth (110)
592298 2007-09-18 10:48:00 I
You're a fool for believing the media will report things accurately; whereas I'm just hopeful :D

I must say that I have to agree with you on that one Myth. I guess the media has to go for the sensationalist aspect to "sell" the article and guarantee page hits. However some of the media reports on Mac based stuff are a lot more accurate than others especially when the writer has a bit more Mac user experience under their belt.
winmacguy (3367)
592299 2007-09-18 19:18:00 www.news.com

3% of the market eh? With the shambles that you talk about (in such derogatory terms) is Vista?

Where are the mac marketing skills winmacguy?

Ken
kenj (9738)
592300 2007-09-19 02:24:00 [url]

Where are the mac marketing skills winmacguy?

Ken

Nowhere that you live Ken.
There is a difference between marketing a product and selling it in numbers at a profit (www.businessweek.com) -Apple-
and licensing out the rights to your software to all comers to ensure you gain maximum market share - Microsoft.
Apple are not directly concerned about "market share" in the same way that Microsoft are, which is not to say that Apple doesn't make a large profit from what they sell each quarter, they do very well in selling portable media devices, computers and iPhones.
winmacguy (3367)
592301 2007-09-19 03:32:00 Nowhere that you live Ken .
There is a difference between marketing a product and selling it in numbers at a profit
and licensing out the rights to your software to all comers to ensure you gain maximum market share - Microsoft.
Apple are not directly concerned about "market share" in the same way that Microsoft are, which is not to say that Apple doesn't make a large profit from what they sell each quarter, they do very well in selling portable media devices, computers and iPhones.

Pardon! Are you daft? :confused: The emoticon say it all. Your post leaves me very confused.

Ken
kenj (9738)
592302 2007-09-19 03:40:00 Pardon! Are you daft? :confused: The emoticon say it all. Your post leaves me very confused.

Ken

Apple is in the business of making devices with an OS that it thinks people want to buy and selling them for a profit. It is unlikely that Apple will ever license out OS X to other computer makers as this would mean that it would loose control of the OS. It did this in the early 90's with Mac clones and the results only hurt Apple.
Microsoft is in the business of licensing out its OS and related software to developers and hardware builders to gain and attempt to maintain a total market share and keep a steady flow of cash coming in and make a profit although this concept is changing with the Xbox and Zune.
winmacguy (3367)
592303 2007-09-19 04:50:00 You are confusing me even more. M$ make an OS and software - they sell this to computer manufacturers. Fairly successful at it too. apple make computers that can run M$ software. What are you trying to say.

I can't really comment on the XBox or the Zune thingy. I have never owned or used either. As far as XBox goes, the PS3 is looking more attractive for what it can do and its upgrade ability. However, I don't play games so I would only want one for my Hi Def camcorder material.

Ken
kenj (9738)
592304 2007-09-19 05:01:00 You are confusing me even more. M$ make an OS and software - they sell this to computer manufacturers. Fairly successful at it too. apple make computers that can run M$ software. What are you trying to say.

Ken

From the start Bill G was always concerned about having a PC on every desktop aka market share. Steve just wanted to build a computer that people would want to use - user experience - he didn't and still doesn't want to license out the OS.

now days Apple is partnering up more and reaping the benefits although they still enjoy making hardware and an OS that people want to use. Apple has shown that you can be a very profitable company without having 95% market share, although it does help (iPod)

Microsoft has started to change its strategy with the Zune and Xbox whereby it designs both the device and the software - with Windows it just designed the OS.

If you still don't "get it" Kenj don't worry, you probably never will along with most PC users.
winmacguy (3367)
592305 2007-09-19 05:22:00 I am not anti mac . I actually looked at one in Noel Leeming for Hi Def editing a couple of years ago but found they looked and felt a bit plasticky - really expensive and wouldn't really go well with my software . . . Bought an HP Core Duo laptop . Cheaper, and it processes Hi Def video editing with much gusto!

Never mind, I should know better than to argue with you . I feel that if I said that white is better than black, you would come up with a URL which would lead me to some fanboy saying that "as from next month, all imacs will be black"

Perhaps it is just some mac owners I "don't get"

Ken
kenj (9738)
592306 2007-09-19 05:50:00 Here's an interesting though. What if MS did with Windows whas Apple has done with Mac OS, and only sell it on computers they built?

Microsoft could create a Dell/HP like company and built Microsoft computers with Windows, and not let others use Windows.

I suppose everyone would just stick with XP/Vista...
george12 (7)
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