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Thread ID: 144190 2017-08-07 02:46:00 Build more roads - forget buslanes and cycleways Digby (677) PC World Chat
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1438049 2017-08-07 02:46:00 I am so pleased that Waterview seems to have been a success.

Its about time Auckland had an east-west motorway.

Forget all the bus lanes and cycle ways, no one uses them.

Who is going to cycle to work in bad weather, so then you have more cars on the road on those days.

People want to drive to work.

Here in Tauranga I see buses driving around all day with one or two people in them. That must be costing us rate payers a fortune. All that to take one car off the road. It would be different if they were full.
Digby (677)
1438050 2017-08-07 03:43:00 No city has ever built its way out of congestion by building more roads. It simply doesn't work. What we need instead is strong alternatives to driving so that people use them - proven by the rail network. :) pcuser42 (130)
1438051 2017-08-07 04:02:00 No city has ever built its way out of congestion by building more roads. It simply doesn't work. What we need instead is strong alternatives to driving so that people use them - proven by the rail network. :)

That may work for a compact city of 12 million like London, but not for a spreadout city like Auckland with less than 2 million.
Digby (677)
1438052 2017-08-07 04:16:00 People do use the bus.
People do bike in the rain.
Husband used to bike from Te Atatu North to Airedale street, for years.
pctek (84)
1438053 2017-08-07 04:37:00 Sorry but your husband was an exception.
Leighton Smith quoted Auckland cities own figures this monring, and the number of people using the cycle lanes in winter is half that of in the summer during the week.
Digby (677)
1438054 2017-08-07 05:32:00 Sorry but your husband was an exception.
Leighton Smith quoted Auckland cities own figures this monring, and the number of people using the cycle lanes in winter is half that of in the summer during the week.

That will be because they simply are not good enough, look at cities like Amsterdam or Copenhagen, cycleways have right of way over cars and so everybody cycles.
gary67 (56)
1438055 2017-08-07 06:15:00 I imagine that Amsterdam and Copenhagen are both fairly flat and more compact than Auckland.
And their drivers are probably more courteous.

And do they still cycle when its snowing there?
Digby (677)
1438056 2017-08-07 06:25:00 No city has ever built its way out of congestion by building more roads. It simply doesn't work. What we need instead is strong alternatives to driving so that people use them - proven by the rail network. :)

Exactly, more roads=more people using cars=more snarl-ups
especially in a city like Auckland with its difficult topography
KarameaDave (15222)
1438057 2017-08-07 06:26:00 I imagine that Amsterdam and Copenhagen are both fairly flat and more compact than Auckland.
And their drivers are probably more courteous.

And do they still cycle when its snowing there?

Does Auckland get much snow?
KarameaDave (15222)
1438058 2017-08-07 06:35:00 Is it just me or do other motorists feel like smashing the cyclists off the road when they run red lights and travel on the road when there is a cycle lane next to it? prefect (6291)
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