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1437751 2017-07-27 22:02:00 Hi there

Im planning to use Freenas as an offsite backup : freenas server located at another site.

Any issues I need to consider ?
Obviously open ports on the router .
Is this just a bad idea , or would it actually work OK .

Im not sure what software I can use to backup to an offsite freenas . Any ideas ?

Would It will have to be incremental backups, just to cut down on internet traffic & time to backup .

Any hints or tips from those that have done this would be appreciated.
I have a test FreeNAS up & running , I havnt tried to backup to it yet.
1101 (13337)
1437752 2017-07-27 22:56:00 I have crashplan on my freenas. I use it a a secondary destination at home. Equally in that same method it could be off site. To set it up though, you need to follow the instructions for freenas and for a headless crashplan install - so the initial set up you'd need to be with it.

But I find it works well.. There's not port forwarding set up in this model, as the two devices communicate to crashplan independently. This is a free service they offer.
psycik (12851)
1437753 2017-07-27 23:39:00 Crashplan is only about $10 a month , for unlimited data. Thats cheap for a cloud business backup
That may just be a easier option, backup to Crashplan instead of to an offsite FreeNAS box .

Im only trying to save some money here.
Many of the Cloud backup services are just far to expensive if you have alot of data to backup , even if the incremental backups are quite small
eg a server: incremental data backup only.

the only downside is the initial first backup : that would be alot of data to upload.
With a FreeNAS box I could do the first backup onsite then move it offsite (assuming the software will accept a new IP to send existing backups to)
1101 (13337)
1437754 2017-07-28 00:34:00 Re-read what I posted.

Crashplan has the ability to back up to a folder in the same machine, another machine in your network, and a machine outside of your network - ie a friend - or, if you pay them money, their cloud.

For free, you can put crashplan on your freenas, and put it outside your network and back up your files to it. The initial seeding can be done via a USB harddrive, or maybe with the freenas at your house. I think the difference between a machine to machine backup on site or offsite, is the name of the crashplan account to use. If onsite they're the same. If offsite I believe they have to be different.

But as you point out, yes it may be cheaper and less headache to use their cloud. I pay $50USD a year, and have about 1.4TB with them. I also backup to the same local machine and to another machine at home. So I have 3 copies at various retrieval speeds.
psycik (12851)
1437755 2017-07-28 00:36:00 Seeding backup:
support.code42.com
psycik (12851)
1437756 2017-07-28 08:13:00 That's still reliant on a third party remaining in business and continuing to offer free/cheap services.

rsync over ssh is what I use for home and work backups and replication.
You do an initial mirror, then only the changes, either generating backups of changed files on the targer or full snapshots utilising hardlinks on filesystems that support them.

Having a fixed ip is ideal, but semi-permanent as most connections are now is probably ok too as long as you are aware, or use a dyndns service but again, third parties that may go away...

You will need an arbitrary port forwarded, but with key-based auth only there is very little security concern.
You could also do a persistent reverse tunnel (with autossh or such) from the target, if the router at that end is not under your control or the ip changes frequently.

There is a bit of a learning curve and it may take a bit of work to get your head around the concepts and it set up how you want, but it will pay off in long term ease of use (and recovery) and self sufficiency.
fred_fish (15241)
1437757 2017-07-28 10:35:00 The software I have used in many places is EaseUS EverySync. www.easeus.com

While all the sync's are over a LAN, looking at the Manual/User Guide PDF Download (www.google.co.nz oad%2Fdocs%2Fpdf%2Feaseus_everysync_user_guide.pdf&usg=AFQjCNH82VwlF6Ke3NHCmagO-N6czFQAig) Section 13 you can sync to a FTP location.

The program has free trial so trying wont cost anything should you wish to give a try. All you should have to do is setup the IP address /user/password access on the NAS.

The program is a once only payment. One place I got it installed it sync's automatically, but it can be set at certain times, and only changes the files that have changed, ( and or either direction) example change a line in a document and only that line is changed on the sync file. First sync took a little while from memory about 160GB ( thousands of photos and documents)
wainuitech (129)
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