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Thread ID: 83252	2007-09-25 08:38:00	Speeding tickets	george12 (7)	PC World Chat

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
594794	2007-09-27 04:50:00	Sounds like someone did a destructive, I mean defensive, driving course... :lol: More common sense than anything. But yes, I did do my destructive.:thumbs:	wratterus (105)
594795	2007-09-27 05:35:00	Swerve left imo. No room. There's a high bank there.	Mercury (1316)
594796	2007-09-27 06:03:00	Then don't swerve. Better to hit a stationary car than an oncoming one.	roddy_boy (4115)
594797	2007-09-27 06:43:00	Friend went up a hill at 80km (legal) went over the brow and immediately swerved into oncoming traffic lane to miss rear-ending a very long line of cars. Unfortunately there was a car coming towards him and they collided. Reason? The road workers at the bottom of the hill hadn't been allowing cars through and the queue had built up to the top of the hill (300 metres away). Even though no warning signs on the up hill it was his fault for not being able to stop in time. I almost had a similar experience. Was travelling south on SH1 through Waiwera and had just gone up the passing lane and over the brow of the hill and there was the traffice stopped! I hit the brakes, hard, and it didn't look like I was going to stop in time so I swerved to the left to go up the inside but then for some reason there was a person standing there so I had to swerve back again. I was going to swerve right but there was oncoming traffic. Just stopped in time. Can't have been more than a few inches from the car in front. I put it down to driving an EVO at the time and it had massive brakes as well as ABS. I was doing the speed limit, which is 80km/h through that part of SH1. The reason for the stopped traffic was rubberneckers! There had been an accident at the bottom of the hill and a car had gone into the ditch. There was nothing blocking the road.	CYaBro (73)
594798	2007-09-27 07:12:00	I thought there was a 200m tolerance zone from the position of the speed sign. Meaning that they can't put a speed camera a few meters away from the sign and zap everyone coming through. Not that I really know - I just heard this somewhere. Other than that - I hate bad drivers. And that includes people who speed inappropriately. People who use their mobile phones (especially 4 txting) while driving really nark me the most. I just imagine a cliff edge miraculously appearing in front of them and them ending up driving off it, oblivious to their fate until the moment of impact.	legod (4626)
594799	2007-09-27 08:58:00	should I write a letter and try to get off it, or just pay my $120 and move on? Stop speeding, pay and move on!	timaru2007 (12408)
594800	2007-09-27 09:06:00	Friend went up a hill at 80km (legal) went over the brow and immediately swerved into oncoming traffic lane to miss rear-ending a very long line of cars. Unfortunately there was a car coming towards him and they collided. Reason? The road workers at the bottom of the hill hadn't been allowing cars through and the queue had built up to the top of the hill (300 metres away). Even though no warning signs on the up hill it was his fault for not being able to stop in time. Best your friend reread the road code. The speed limit is a maximum speed your allowed. There is a rule that on a road marked with a center line you can only drive at a speed where you can stop in the distance you can see. For unmarked roads, you should drive at a speed where you can stop in half the distance you can see. Driving any faster than the distance you can see is just asking for trouble.	porkster (6331)
594801	2007-09-27 09:55:00	Living on the edge of West Auckland it used to be a 20 minutes drive to my daughter's house (they sold a few months ago). West Coast Road was dynamite - very easy to pick up one or two tickets. I finally worked out why. Our road is open road and twisty so we drive to the conditions (as low as 20km an hour if foggy or 80 on some of the better stretches if not). Then there is the 80km stretch with the hill. Then it is down to 50, back up to a max of 80 (usually less) on another open twisty road. Henderson Valley Road is open and a fast road to drive then, with no change to the road conditions - just more built up, it is down to 50. Very, very hard to do 50 on this bit when you've spent over half the trip driving to the conditions. You end up with more eyes on the speedo to keep your speed down than eyes on the road!	Mercury (1316)
594802	2007-09-27 09:59:00	Page 90 of "The Official New Zealand Road Code for Heavy Vehicle Drivers" 2005 Edition: IMPORTANT Speed limit changes take effect at the sign post. Before reaching the sign make sure you: - Reduce your speed, if the sign indicates a lower spped. - Do not increase your speed until you pass the sign, if the sign indicates a higher speed.	Mercury (1316)
594803	2007-09-27 13:22:00	Living on the edge of West Auckland it used to be a 20 minutes drive to my daughter's house (they sold a few months ago). West Coast Road was dynamite - very easy to pick up one or two tickets. I finally worked out why. Our road is open road and twisty so we drive to the conditions (as low as 20km an hour if foggy or 80 on some of the better stretches if not). Then there is the 80km stretch with the hill. Then it is down to 50, back up to a max of 80 (usually less) on another open twisty road. Henderson Valley Road is open and a fast road to drive then, with no change to the road conditions - just more built up, it is down to 50. Very, very hard to do 50 on this bit when you've spent over half the trip driving to the conditions. You end up with more eyes on the speedo to keep your speed down than eyes on the road! i live in that area too. my brother nearly lost his licence doing 92kph where henderson valley road goes from 70 to 50 - a cop waiting just around the corner for him. I thought there was a 200m tolerance zone from the position of the speed sign. Meaning that they can't put a speed camera a few meters away from the sign and zap everyone coming through. Not that I really know - I just heard this somewhere. Other than that - I hate bad drivers. And that includes people who speed inappropriately. People who use their mobile phones (especially 4 txting) while driving really nark me the most. I just imagine a cliff edge miraculously appearing in front of them and them ending up driving off it, oblivious to their fate until the moment of impact. that 200m thing is what i thought too.... and same for phone users < begin rant > IMHO (here he comes with another arguable, controversial and downright ridiculous set of statements which flies in the face of mainstream politically correct bull****), the worst drivers are the ones who don't pull over. they are holding up (literally) kilometers of traffic by doing half the posted limit and don't seem to think that maybe the hundreds of people, couriers, truck/bus drivers etc etc are getting rather irate. they seem oblivious to everyone and everything behind them. i see it again and again, and then you get "combos"; i once told a friend off for doing 25kph around the inside of a blind corner on open road, txting while driving (with me sitting in the passenger seat). if anyone, including a bus, truck or nana, came around that corner at "normal" or "reasonable" speed they would've flown straight into the back of him. those sorts of drivers are just as bad, if not worse than, the idiot doing 130 down the motorway. and a question: lets say you're driving, at night, not much traffic, on backroads around riverhead/dairy flat. then about 40 bikes come tearing up behind you, passing at what some may call "excessive" speed. would you pull over and stop, move to the left and maybe slow down, or continue at 100kph hugging the centerline while they all try to pass you before the next set of twisties? (if you're one of the idiots who tries to keep up, please dont. it's extremely dangerous for us bikers to have a big steel cage in the middle of us, and unless your in a ferrari you'll just be wasting gas anyway) (edit: and what if you come to an intersection? then would you let the bikes pass?) ok, i feel a bit better now... better remove all the angry faces and abusive comments... /rant (sorry it's a bit OT)	motorbyclist (188)
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