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| Thread ID: 83321 | 2007-09-27 10:01:00 | Take the union jack from NZ flag | tedheath (537) | PC World Chat |
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| 595742 | 2007-10-01 06:33:00 | Posting in a tedheath thread. While I'm here, I wish ask the mods, how is negro a racist term? And if it is, what is the politically correct alternative? Negro is associated with the Southern states of America, and is seen to be a term of abuse. I assume it is the origin of nigger. The usual term used in America these days I believe is African American. Similarly I believe they no longer use the term Indian (mainly cos they come from America not India). I think the preferred term is Native American. |
John H (8) | ||
| 595743 | 2007-10-01 07:06:00 | Negro is associated with the Southern states of America, and is seen to be a term of abuse. I assume it is the origin of nigger. The usual term used in America these days I believe is African American. Similarly I believe they no longer use the term Indian (mainly cos they come from America not India). I think the preferred term is Native American. True, Native American. Has a nice ring to it. Ya learn something new everyday... |
rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 595744 | 2007-10-01 07:35:00 | No leave it there - it shows our NZ heritage. But I would like a more identifiable background from Australia's. Regards Digby I agree a nice little silver fern would be good. |
mikebartnz (21) | ||
| 595745 | 2007-10-01 07:59:00 | No insult intended Metla, in fact a compliment, but you seem to me more like a Celtic Barbarian Warrior or a Scottish Broadsword Wielding Highlander than anything I can imagine that corresponds to America. | zqwerty (97) | ||
| 595746 | 2007-10-01 08:12:00 | And do tell us what tedheath got banned for :D Posting Drunk probably. |
sam m (517) | ||
| 595747 | 2007-10-01 08:44:00 | There appears to be a significant amount of antipathy, to New Zealand's British heritage, I say British because the Scots and Irish and to a lesser extent the Welsh all materially contributed to the society that is New Zealand today. We still enjoy the benefit if British institutions, such as the legal system and constitutional system. The monarchy may seem a bit of an anachronism, but it has a lot going for it compared to having a politician as head of state, and contrary to perceived opinion, show me where there is a subservient tugging of the forelock. The nineteenth century was a rampant period of colonialism from the European powers, and to those who are critical of the British Colonial past, I have two comments, what happened over 120 years ago has to be measured by the standards of the times, one can't judge events of that era by todays standards, and secondly, judging by the colonial record of other European powers, just give a thought to what New Zealand would have been like if the colonial masters were the French, Dutch, Belgians, Portuguese or Spanish, I somehow think the indigenous people would have got a much rawer deal. In New Zealand past history there have been events that by todays standards may seem extremely unjust, but in the overall balance Britain contributed a lot to New Zealand, and it is nothing to denigrate or be ashamed of. |
KenESmith (6287) | ||
| 595748 | 2007-10-01 09:11:00 | it does need changed, but nothing drastic. as said, made so a lot different from the Australian Flag. I consider myself a Kiwi, as all of us who were born here are. Im only a 3rd generation NZer at that. Although im not one to be saluting or pledging allegiance to anything, yes i will fight for my home if required, but not to the extent that it requires me to idolize the flag. I think stuff like that goes a bit too far. Its a symbol of our country, which shows by looking at it, including the union flag, our history since 1840. What i see we get form history is what not to do in the future. |
Cho (12330) | ||
| 595749 | 2007-10-01 09:20:00 | There appears to be a significant amount of antipathy, to New Zealand's British heritage, I say British because the Scots and Irish and to a lesser extent the Welsh all materially contributed to the society that is New Zealand today. We still enjoy the benefit if British institutions, such as the legal system and constitutional system. The monarchy may seem a bit of an anachronism, but it has a lot going for it compared to having a politician as head of state, and contrary to perceived opinion, show me where there is a subservient tugging of the forelock. The nineteenth century was a rampant period of colonialism from the European powers, and to those who are critical of the British Colonial past, I have two comments, what happened over 120 years ago has to be measured by the standards of the times, one can't judge events of that era by todays standards, and secondly, judging by the colonial record of other European powers, just give a thought to what New Zealand would have been like if the colonial masters were the French, Dutch, Belgians, Portuguese or Spanish, I somehow think the indigenous people would have got a much rawer deal. In New Zealand past history there have been events that by todays standards may seem extremely unjust, but in the overall balance Britain contributed a lot to New Zealand, and it is nothing to denigrate or be ashamed of. Heres a thought, Dont be so arrogant as to tell me how I can think. sad. but crap. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 595750 | 2007-10-01 09:41:00 | I think most are missing the point, its a flag of history of things that are done. Not will be or maybe but done. People may not agree or what ever, at least a bit of respect should be shown for those who fought for us to have the rite to argue about it, we should remember from the past and learn from it. 'Lest we forget'. |
rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 595751 | 2007-10-01 09:43:00 | thats pretty much what the last sentence of my post said. | Cho (12330) | ||
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