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Thread ID: 83252	2007-09-25 08:38:00	Speeding tickets	george12 (7)	PC World Chat

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594754	2007-09-26 00:11:00	Technically you were not in the zone appropriate for your speed, even if it was by only 5 seconds. And yes, if what you say is true, then what you did makes perfect sense. But the line has to be drawn somewhere, and it's right at the sign. There's no point arguing. They screwed you. All you can do is pay the damn thing and forget about it Exactly my thoughts. If the cops can prove you were doing 68kph in a 50kph thats it, finished... you were speeding you should pay... and <ahem> get a radar detector <ahem>	The_End_Of_Reality (334)
594755	2007-09-26 00:37:00	That's called a "speed trap" in the US and it's against federal law for local police to employ such tactics. Fair enough Ill take back comment of speed trap if its in deacceleration zone.	tedheath (537)
594756	2007-09-26 00:52:00	I’d complain about that, it is bollocks. That kind of “speeding” Isn’t going to cause any sort of problems, if you waited until the sign and slowly started accelerating, you could get fined for going too slow. If you all of a sudden accelerated to 70, you could be done for Un-necessary Exhibition of Driving (only if you were under 25). That is a speed trap, it’s good to see that in the US – they realise theres a problem. Basically accelerating at a safe rate is deemed dangerous, which is stupid. Going 70 past a school in a 50K zone is worthy of a speeding fine, for obvious reasons. You are being treated the same as someone who commits an actual offence. A lot can be said about the government sucking money from this country’s drivers. It’s like the $400 breach of licence charge for young people on their restricted licence. You have to wait 18 months to get your full licence, and are a competent driver by this stage – yet you can’t drive after 10pm (what if you work that late?) and you cant carry passengers. It’s merely in place because it is an easy way of making huge bucks. A lot of traffic police don’t really enforce it. I drive a POS, and carry passengers – I have been let off every time I’ve been rolled. It’s because I have a clean record, and the police can see that I’m just someone safely driving from A to B – and am carrying a passenger. A lot of police think it is BS too IMO. I think innocent people get targeted way too closely with a lot of laws in NZ.	Enigmur (10547)
594757	2007-09-26 01:13:00	I'll complain if the photo shows me to be as close as I remember it. Tedheath, shut up please. I'm not after "don't speed you idiot" comments. I'm working out whether or not it's fair to say that I was speeding. I'm going to use SurferJoe's comment to argue my point - that it's illegal to do so in the USA.	george12 (7)
594758	2007-09-26 01:57:00	I once hit a young girl who shot across the road from behind a stationary bus she had just got off. Luckily I had slowed down to 40km/h when passing so that she just bounced off the left side of the bonnet and ran away. The traffic cop told me that if I had been going 55km/h she probably would have been seriously injured and possibly killed. 5.6: Speed limits relating to school buses (1)A driver, when meeting or overtaking any stationary school bus stopped for the purpose of discharging or embarking school children, must— (a)drive with due care for the safety of the children; and (b)while passing any part of the school bus, not drive at a speed exceeding 20 km per hour.	roddy_boy (4115)
594759	2007-09-26 03:15:00	(b)while passing any part of the school bus, not drive at a speed exceeding 20 km per hour. Now we know why...	george12 (7)
594760	2007-09-26 05:10:00	5.6: Speed limits relating to school buses It wasn't a school bus that I passed, nor, at 7pm, was it during school hours so even though I did, I had no obligation to slow down. It was common sense to do so, however, which paid off.	FoxyMX (5)
594761	2007-09-26 05:32:00	I just got a speeding ticket in the mail a few days ago (from a hidden camera in a van) for doing 68km/h in a 50km/h zone - a $120 fine. I know when it happened, because I noticed the flash. I'm not very happy with it, because I was clocked about five seconds before going through the 70km/h speed limit sign, and I was doing more than 50 because I had seen the sign and was speeding up. I'm aware that you must, legally speaking, wait until you're past the sign before speeding up to the new limit, but isn't this a bit of a nasty tactic to collect fines? Not a lot of people wait, with their foot poised on the accelerator, until the sign is behind them before beginning to accelerate. The normal practice is to see the sign, acknowledge the new speed limit, and then begin smoothly speeding up or slowing down to reach that new limit at a comfortable rate. With the way some signs are on highway onramps, if you were to wait until the '100' sign (coming from a 50 zone) you would have to floor it to have any hope of reaching 100 by the time you needed to merge into the highway. Imagine if cops were waiting in the onramps to catch people who smoothly speed up along them rather than waiting until they're past the sign... Do you apply your theory when going from 100kph zone to a 50 kph zone	plod (107)
594762	2007-09-26 05:53:00	Try this site: (it's US, but might offer a glimpse of a rebuttal) www.motorists.org	SurferJoe46 (51)
594763	2007-09-26 06:03:00	Do you apply your theory when going from 100kph zone to a 50 kph zone Yes. I see the sign ahead, and start to brake well before I go past the sign to be going at 50 or close to 50 when I go through the sign. Same thing, but in this case it's what one legally MUST do, as opposed to being technically illegal.	george12 (7)
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