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Thread ID: 83252	2007-09-25 08:38:00	Speeding tickets	george12 (7)	PC World Chat

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594744	2007-09-25 11:02:00	The way I look at it is when you are coming out of say a 70km/h area into a 50km/h area the cops would expect you to slow down before you get to the signs so that you are doing 50km/h when you enter the 50km/h area. So by that logic I have to be doing the higher speed when I pass the signs going from a slower speed area into the higher speed area. So to achive that I would have to speed up before I reach the signs.	CYaBro (73)
594745	2007-09-25 11:05:00	It's not speed that kills, rather the sudden stop when coming into contact with an oncoming vehicle or lost of traction when misjudging your cornering speed in wet or icy conditions.	winmacguy (3367)
594746	2007-09-25 11:30:00	When you take that most speed signs are placed opposite each other and in a position so that those moving into a slower zone are given time to slow down this was obviously a revenue gathering exercise. They have a better system in Canada where they have a sign warning of a speed reduction and you must be doing the speed limit when you actually pass the speed sign.	mikebartnz (21)
594747	2007-09-25 21:00:00	Various family members have got several thousand dollars worth of tickets for speeding up too soon/not slowing down fast enough coming into and going out of 50km and 70km areas. Where we live, there are a few chronic places, no houses or anything, and you have to do 50 or 70. The cops just love it. Pigs :(	wratterus (105)
594748	2007-09-25 21:22:00	I used to live near the Caltex station on Ohiro road and people used to speed past all the time. If they were really concerned about safety they would be policing the built up area between the lights and where the housing ends.	Sam's Dad (11848)
594749	2007-09-25 21:57:00	I just got a speeding ticket in the mail a few days ago (from a hidden camera in a van) for doing 68km/h in a 50km/h zone - a $120 fine. I know when it happened, because I noticed the flash. I'm not very happy with it, because I was clocked about five seconds before going through the 70km/h speed limit sign, and I was doing more than 50 because I had seen the sign and was speeding up. I'm aware that you must, legally speaking, wait until you're past the sign before speeding up to the new limit, but isn't this a bit of a nasty tactic to collect fines? Not a lot of people wait, with their foot poised on the accelerator, until the sign is behind them before beginning to accelerate. The normal practice is to see the sign, acknowledge the new speed limit, and then begin smoothly speeding up or slowing down to reach that new limit at a comfortable rate. With the way some signs are on highway onramps, if you were to wait until the '100' sign (coming from a 50 zone) you would have to floor it to have any hope of reaching 100 by the time you needed to merge into the highway. Imagine if cops were waiting in the onramps to catch people who smoothly speed up along them rather than waiting until they're past the sign... Perhaps this is a pathetic excuse in the same category as "I was just going with the flow of the traffic" but should I write a letter and try to get off it, or just pay my $120 and move on? That's called a "speed trap" in the US and it's against federal law for local police to employ such tactics.	SurferJoe46 (51)
594750	2007-09-25 22:22:00	It's not speed that kills, rather the sudden stop when coming into contact with an oncoming vehicle or lost of traction when misjudging your cornering speed in wet or icy conditions. And the faster you go the more violent the stop is when you come into contact with an oncoming vehicle. If I had a choice I would far rather hit an oncoming vehicle when both were doing 50km/h than 80km/h. I once hit a young girl who shot across the road from behind a stationary bus she had just got off. Luckily I had slowed down to 40km/h when passing so that she just bounced off the left side of the bonnet and ran away. The traffic cop told me that if I had been going 55km/h she probably would have been seriously injured and possibly killed.	FoxyMX (5)
594751	2007-09-25 22:30:00	Who cares if it is a revenue gathering excercise you can opt out of it by not speeding. Hardly rocket science,speed pay the fine,and (@#$% up. It wouldnt be a speed trap if you didnt speed. USA cant talk they are still looking for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. They cant even get rid of millions on illegal immigrants. Its not hard Idi got rid of Indians, Mugabe seems to be able to get rid of Pomgolians. tedheath	tedheath (537)
594752	2007-09-25 22:35:00	Technically you were not in the zone appropriate for your speed, even if it was by only 5 seconds. And yes, if what you say is true, then what you did makes perfect sense. But the line has to be drawn somewhere, and it's right at the sign. There's no point arguing. They screwed you. All you can do is pay the damn thing and forget about it	Agent_24 (57)
594753	2007-09-25 22:55:00	It wouldnt be a speed trap if you didnt speed . USA cant talk they are still looking for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq . They cant even get rid of millions on illegal immigrants . Its not hard Idi got rid of Indians, Mugabe seems to be able to get rid of Pomgolians . tedheath How shallow do you think I am? Good grief! I don't think you can brand me as going to Iran looking for WMD . . I didn't go! There is no incentive to get "rid of the illegal immigrants" by the government . They come here with forged documents, the employers are not allowed to ask about their legality . . . they work for a year all the time paying into the social security, welfare withholding taxes, state disability insurance, workmen's compensation insurance and they cannot file for an income tax return, use the benefits they pay into or ever retire on social security because the SS numbers they have are counterfeit . Then ask yourself: "Where's the money all going"? Good question . I suggest that SOMEBODY is raking in that money that cannot be used or spent by the Social Security, federal government or the State Insurance Boards . . . it disappears in manila envelopes to underdesk payoffs . That's why there's lax support or security at the borders . Somebody's making a lot of $$$$ on it . Don't for a moment think that the US could not secure the borders so a mouse fart would not go undetected . They don't want to! NOTICE: AN EDUCATIONAL POINT IS ABOUT TO BE STATED HERE, PLEASE USE CAUTION IF YOU DON'T WANT TO LEARN ANYTHING TODAY . A "speed trap" does not need somebody to actually speed . It is the sudden and instantaneous requirements that the speed be changed without a slow-down or speed up area of consideration . Then in enforcing those instantaneous and nebulous speed changes drivers are clocked and cited . That's what a speed trap is!	SurferJoe46 (51)
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