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Thread ID: 83546	2007-10-05 11:06:00	Jury penalises music file-sharer	legod (4626)	PC World Chat

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598276	2007-10-06 06:14:00	All I can think is thank God we don't have this in NZ. Sure, it's illegal, but there's no government entity hunting down file sharers and suing them for hundreds of thousands of dollars...	george12 (7)
598277	2007-10-06 06:16:00	news.bbc.co.uk Seems a bit on the harsh side to me.:dogeye: though it does not say as much in this article it was stated on the radio today that she is a single parent. The article does say however - This is a girl that lives from pay cheque to pay cheque, and now all of a sudden she could get a quarter of her pay cheque garnished for the rest of her life," he said. Surely they could have picked on someone with greater resources !! Misty :groan:	Misty (368)
598278	2007-10-06 06:24:00	though it does not say as much in this article it was stated on the radio today that she is a single parent. The article does say however - Surely they could have picked on someone with greater resources !! Misty :groan: This is the RIAA we are talking about Misty, they have sued every US kid, college student and their aunty's grandmother in an attempt to stop music piracy. All to absolutely no avail. CD sales are still declining and will do so until they no longer exist because the digital native generation has moved in. The RIAA and music execs hate the fact that they are loosing control and that the customer is now able to dictate how much they pay for music as an individual download rather than the whole CD which has traditionally contained 2-3 good tracks and 15 crap ones for 29-34.95 (compared to 17.95 for a new release online) or 1.79 per track (iTunes) The Telecoms are still screwing customers with the price of individual ringtones @ 3.49 a track (Apple is doing them for 99c for the iPhone + 99c for the track itself) For the record it was Apple (aka Steve) who originally took the concept of 99c songs to the Music industry who demand some form of DRM to limit filesharing (what a fat lot of use that had :lol: Now even Microshaft has been forced to include DRM FREE MP3 tracks in the re designed Zune Music Store to try and encourage more people to buy Zunes(and tracks), while Amazon has launched its MP3 (DRM FREE) music store. For the record Apple was the first to create a DRM FREE section in the iTunes store selling 256kbps AAC tracks that are DRM FREE from selected artists. Talk about putting a dent in the universe.	winmacguy (3367)
598279	2007-10-06 06:44:00	The RIAA and music execs hate the fact that they are loosing control and that the customer is now able to dictate how much they pay for music as an individual download rather than the whole CD which has traditionally contained 2-3 good tracks and 15 crap ones for 29-34.95 (compared to 17.95 for a new release online) or 1.79 per track (iTunes) You are soooo right - and even an oldie like me now buy most of my tracks from iTunes. Very rare for me now to buy a CD, though in some ways I am well behind the times. Only cottoned on a few months ago how very good Fleetwood Mac are (not much under 40 years after I could have !!). In fact it was only last Friday that I bought the CD of the "Best of the Original Fleetwood Mac". How mind-boggling is that because the original FM sound more like Bo Diddley and other Blues Artists. In summary therefore, I am not sure whether I am ahead or behind. Buying iTunes tracks at my age for my iPod and iTrip, or just discovering things I missed almost 40 years ago. And yes, before you ask, I do remember the 60's. Did not trip out on drugs etc. Misty :confused: ;)	Misty (368)
598280	2007-10-06 06:48:00	Must have had a very good lawyer to convince the jury. I wonder what the age group make up of the jury was and what their understanding of technology digital music and rip off prices for CDs verses fairer prices for digital downloads was...probably about 0. The RIAA is definitely stuck in the dark ages. My thoughts exactly. I know if I was on the jury on that case, I would have been gunning for the defendant, regardless of guilt in the eyes of the 'law'. When I read and hear about this sort of thing, it makes me even less likely to want to go out and buy DVDs/CDs. Simply because I don't want to line the pockets of these ruthless barons. And then there's so much crap that rolls off their production line that they try and pass for entertainment. I hardly go to the cinema anymore thanks to the experience of feeling ripped off after watching several crap movies. If I do go, then I feel compelled to trawl through umpteen reviews to see whether or not it's worth the money. Piracy may indeed be a problem, but I don't think it's anywhere near the size of the problem as the likes of the RIAA try and make it out to be. As soon as they see a drop in profit, or even a fall in the growth of their profits, they like to blame it on piracy instead of their failure to meet market demands. It's laziness and greed rolled into one. What of the the poor woman, and the many other thousands made into scapegoats. Their lives have been ruined. Totally out of proportion with the 'offence' IMO. How they can equate so many thousands of dollars with the sharing of each file is beyond me. The perceived, calculated damages are based on assumptions. Firstly, they seem to assume everyone downloading a full copy of the file from the woman would have otherwise gone out and bought a copy of the item. Certainly not true. More likely a fraction of that number. Secondly, she may have had the files on offer, but how on Earth do they know exactly how much (in megabytes she had shared?) If she was on bittorrent, she could have had 1000 different people downloading off her but each person could have only downloaded a fraction of the file from her. Copyright theft may indeed be a crime in the eyes of the law. But if this is supposed be justice, then the outcome is an even greater crime.	legod (4626)
598281	2007-10-06 06:56:00	All I can think is thank God we don't have this in NZ. Sure, it's illegal, but there's no government entity hunting down file sharers and suing them for hundreds of thousands of dollars... Not sure about that: three New Zealanders are now being prosecuted for video download piracy pcworld.co.nz	legod (4626)
598282	2007-10-06 06:58:00	F**K the RIAA I say.	radium (8645)
598283	2007-10-06 07:18:00	I was in Oz last week and reading that In Australia music sales are on the increase but record company profits are not, because they are the ones not embracing the new way of doing things.	Twelvevolts (5457)
598284	2007-10-06 07:22:00	Apparently FaceBook is looking to set itself up as an iTunes competitor since MS is looking at investing a large chunk of cash in FaceBook.	winmacguy (3367)
598285	2007-10-06 08:15:00	Apparently FaceBook is looking to set itself up as an iTunes competitor since MS is looking at investing a large chunk of cash in FaceBook. I recall an ISP guy saying that the share of Bit Torrent traffic at his ISP was now over 65% of all internet traffic. I wonder what everyone is sharing?	Twelvevolts (5457)
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