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Thread ID: 84074 2007-10-23 17:22:00 Do store bought Vista PC's come with CD ? Digby (677) PC World Chat
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604615 2007-10-23 22:34:00 Otherwise they can supply disks at $50 delivered :mad:

HP on the other hand want $175 (But that could be with the license as well) :dogeye:

Assuming that Digby and his friend wants the Vista disk in case of HD failure, virus damage or otherwise needing to reinstall the OS, I think it makes more sense to invest in a drive image program such as Acronis (or Paragon or even freebies) .

This way, if the HD fails you can get back your installed programs and data - not just the OS . And if the pc is stolen or totally zapped by a surge, you can get everything back the way it was (on the same or similar pc / mb) .
Morpheus1 (186)
604616 2007-10-23 23:18:00 Is PB technologies a real computer shop?

You should see their phantom computers. They're so quiet and light, you'd think they don't even exist:lol:

But yes, I got an XP disc because I got mine custom built. Not quite sure about the pre-assembled, advertised models.
beeswax34 (63)
604617 2007-10-24 00:03:00 I was under the impression that the DVD had all the versions on it. This was so you could upgrade, say "Home" to "Premium" and paid MS for the upgrade.

Yep you are right all Seven versions of Vista are on the one DVD, when you install it, the licence key you brought unlocks and installs the version related to that key.

While the upgrade choice may be a good Idea Upgrade window (www.imagef1.net.nz) Currently in New Zealand it does not apply. In the drop down box when you select your country NZ is not listed.

If anyone rubbishes Home Basic - you should see the starter edition.
wainuitech (129)
604618 2007-10-24 00:52:00 Assuming that Digby and his friend wants the Vista disk in case of HD failure, virus damage or otherwise needing to reinstall the OS, I think it makes more sense to invest in a drive image program such as Acronis (or Paragon or even freebies).

This way, if the HD fails you can get back your installed programs and data - not just the OS. And if the pc is stolen or totally zapped by a surge, you can get everything back the way it was (on the same or similar pc / mb).
The user shouldn't have to spend even more money just so they can reinstall their OS at a later date. If the license is legal then I don't see why the user can't acquire a Windows CD from somewhere. Granted some of the disks on P2P networks aren't that reliable but grabbing a copy of a friend legit disk would solve the problem, cost no extra money and should be entirely legal.
Pete O'Neil (6584)
604619 2007-10-24 01:39:00 Hi Guys,

Thanks for your feedback !

It seems this no CD/DVD for Vista is quite common. To me it is just not on, as most new pc purchasers do not have the time or inclination, or expertise or foresite to burn an image copy !

Not only that but my friend was also not given a set of motherboard drivers !

So I have "upgraded" him to Windows XP and now cannot install the correct drivers to get his sound card and lan port going !

I have been to the suppliers website but they only download Vista drivers ! and I have been to the motherboard suppliers and they do not list his model !

So its a whole croc of ****e !

All of that to make a few extra few dollars on the original sale !

Regards

Digby
Digby (677)
604620 2007-10-24 02:12:00 Thats what the restore cds or dvd is for.

Its got the OS and drivers and everything else to make it work.

Thats why u dont get a mobo cd.

And thats why they put a program on the hdd for. So, you can create the cd's or DVD.
Speedy Gonzales (78)
604621 2007-10-24 08:10:00 Four years ago I purchased a new IBM laptop with Windows XP Pro . What I thought was an XP cd was infact a small booklet about Windows XP which was sealed in plastic and had some cardboard to keep it nice and flat and was the size you would expect if it had a cd in it . I was rather hacked off to discover it wasn't a cd but then thats what OEM's provide (well don't provide) . They don't provide a "full" version of Windows . They provide a tweaked version on the restore media .

Now I was curious and installed another hard drive and attempted to install Windows XP Pro on it (a full version) . The laptop wouldn't have a bar of it and stopped me doing this (I presume they write protect some of the hard drive sectors) . So I expect that this IBM laptop will only run the tweaked IBM version of Windows .

Now I did ring IBM to ask about getting an XP Pro cd . The lady I spoke to had been brain washed into thinking that customers didn't want cd media any more :angry I said what happened if the hard drive crashed and I could access the restore partition . She said no problem, if its under warranty, they will replace the hard drive . "What happens if its out of warranty" - you are on your own basically .
dolby digital (5073)
604622 2007-10-24 17:05:00 Yes it sucks that the don't give you the disks or even a recovery disk.

And its not only if you hard drive crashes, what if you want to put in a new hard drive ? Or want to re-install windows to clear out a overloaded system !

Regards

Digby
Digby (677)
604623 2007-10-24 17:14:00 Yes it sucks that the don't give you the disks or even a recovery disk.

And its not only if you hard drive crashes, what if you want to put in a new hard drive ? Or want to re-install windows to clear out a overloaded system !


Digby, Speedy says "And thats why they put a program on the hdd for. So, you can create the cd's or DVD."

It is my understanding that a partition is made on the hdd which contains the OS recovery files. Booting to that partition will reinstall the OS. If the hdd is replaced, the recovery files on the original partition can be transferred to the new hdd, assuming that the files were copied onto CDs or DVD. (Correct me if necessary, Speedy.)
Morpheus1 (186)
604624 2007-10-24 18:44:00 When I bought my laptop (with Vista and other programmes installed) I asked about the software. They said it was on the HD. With my limited PC knowledge I had a look and that does appear to be the case. They also suggested that I backup to a CD, a backup which I assume includes the software so that I could reinstall from the backup if necessary. How does that sound? Roscoe (6288)
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