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Thread ID: 84151	2007-10-25 23:07:00	Mallard distraction...	somebody (208)	PC World Chat

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605510	2007-10-28 00:33:00	Rodney's looking very trim since the dancing thing. Scary, even... Caesar:- Let me have men about me that are fat, Sleek-headed men and such as sleep a-nights. Yond Cassius (Rodney) has a lean and hungry look, He thinks too much; such men are dangerous. Your argument has merit,in as much that Rodney has a philosophy,so lacking in most MP's. Brash had one two,don't know about Keys.	Cicero (40)
605511	2007-10-28 05:57:00	7.62x39 Isn't 7.62 NATO calibre? What's got 39 rounds? Assuming that's what you mean and all... :D	Sick Puppy (6959)
605512	2007-10-28 10:04:00	In New Zealand Politics and every New Zealand Election there is always a loser, the trouble is the loser never changes, because the loser is always the people of New Zealand. Wouldn't be nice for a change to have a competent government running the country for the benefit of New Zealanders, rather than for a minority vested interest.	KenESmith (6287)
605513	2007-10-28 17:31:00	Wouldn't be nice for a change to have a competent government running the country for the benefit of New Zealanders, rather than for a minority vested interest. A large part of parliamentary business is supply. The bureaucrats run the country, really, with the government in an overseeing role with their hand on the cash. But the amounts voted for supply are set in the budget so the civil servants at the head of departments are not at the whim of the government's largesse. The senior civil servants at Telecom, for instance, were working on its privatisation at least two years before it became a government policy.	Deane F (8204)
605514	2007-10-29 02:31:00	DeanF I agree with you insofar as the routine work of Government is concerned, and can quote a prime example: When I was an Air Force Officer serving a period of penal servitude in the Ministry of Defence, we were instructed if directly contacted by an MP, government or opposition, we were to avoid giving them any classified information. We were reminded that to hold an appointment as a commissioned Officer in MOD we were required to undergo a positive vetting security clearance, and that MPs refused to be subject to a positive vetting clearance and as such should not be given to any information classified higher than restricted. To the uninitiated a PV security clearance is very thorough looking into all aspects of an individuals lifestyle, behaviour and finances, to ensure there are no skeletons that could make the individual a potential security risk. It is not rocket science to see why MPs would not like being subject to such scrutiny, although they believe, and rightly so, that Service Offoicers and Civil Servants with access to classified information should be subject to vetting. Back to the point, nearly every politician is in Parliament with several personal agendas, the first one being to keep himself there, and the others frequently revolving round paying the piper, so the long suffering citizen tax payer becomes the loser. The only man to ever enter parliament with honest intent was Guy Fawkes, and he stuffed up.	KenESmith (6287)
605515	2007-10-29 03:39:00	Ken, MP need to be held to there promises that they spouted in order to get into parliament IMO. Too many times, the election promises are just hyperbole, which never seem to come to pass. Labour loves bureaucratic red tape, property consent documentation has risen from 30 to 133 pages! OSH make there own jobs!, meanwhile, none of the election promises ever see the light of day. There needs to be some sort of parliament committee to oversee and supervisor these aged kids!	SolMiester (139)
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