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| Thread ID: 84353 | 2007-11-02 07:16:00 | Do you smoke Cigarettes? | radium (8645) | PC World Chat |
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| 607802 | 2007-11-03 16:13:00 | So everyone is going to be under surveilance? I can see the reasoning, but that has to be the most intrusive laws ever... And they call it the land of the free. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 607803 | 2007-11-03 16:15:00 | The health inspectors enforce the laws in establishments and such, the police can see if the parent/adult is smoking and there's a kid in the car and people in general will just act rude and say things to people who smoke in public . At the VA hospital where I go, it is a Federal reservation . . the land and building and it is a Federal offense to smoke there . So . . . the observation and enforcement is pretty well established so far . I can tell you about our seatbelt laws too . . . they are Draconian . . but all for a good reason . Next year, the cellphone-while-driving law takes effect . Drivers under 25 y/o now can be cited for texting or cellphone use while driving . |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 607804 | 2007-11-03 16:21:00 | Had a lady next door crash into her garage door early this year, not from talking on it though, it dropped from her pocket and ended up underneath her brake pedal. Luckily she was just going up her driveway at the time I guess. |
rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 607805 | 2007-11-03 17:17:00 | And they call it the land of the free. I blame the liberalist actions of groups like Greenpeace, The Tree People, and other do-gooders. It's a shame that kids have to suffer from second hand smoke all right...but you seem to forget that there are other things that are to be considered here too. Driving is NOT a right..it is a privilege. You obtain a drivers license by passing a test of skill and rote laws memorization. If you fail, you then cannot invoke "rights" and drive anyway. You must obey Caesar here and observe the written laws. Same's true about seatbelts. If you have an accident and DON'T wear them, you have no rights to pursue damages and injuries to yourself..even if your driving was not the causative agent in the accident. If you are breaking a law at the time of an accident...commission of a crime (driving a getaway car), performing some illegal activity (ie: transporting drugs or contraband), speeding over the prima-fascia speed laws, operating an unlicensed/uninsured/unregistered/stolen vehicle, or have unsafe or illegal modifications to that vehicle, then you have no rights in court. You cannot sue or seek damages. That's OK with me..as I keep things above the requirements for myself and don't suffer any for it. |
SurferJoe46 (51) | ||
| 607806 | 2007-11-03 18:09:00 | . . . . . If you are breaking a law at the time of an accident . . . commission of a crime (driving a getaway car), performing some illegal activity (ie: transporting drugs or contraband), speeding over the prima-fascia speed laws, operating an unlicensed/uninsured/unregistered/stolen vehicle, or have unsafe or illegal modifications to that vehicle, then you have no rights in court . You cannot sue or seek damages . That's OK with me . . as I keep things above the requirements for myself and don't suffer any for it . That can get weird tho, so your parked on the side of road and some twerp Tbones your stationary vehicle, then wait, it's your fault for being there if (see above) |
personthingy (1670) | ||
| 607807 | 2007-11-03 18:29:00 | You have the right to bear arms, but not cigarettes? Is that because cigarette death is a lingering affair, but being shot is sort of okay? It is about as logical as our bylaws that compell you to pass a test before having a dog, but having brats is in bulk is suitable for unskilled labour. (In fact it's sponsored by the state.) |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 607808 | 2007-11-03 18:34:00 | Slight observation here.. if this poll were run 10-15 years ago, I wonder how much the figures would've changed between then and now (after all the laws, and the 'it's now socially unacceptable to smoke' mindset)? | Myth (110) | ||
| 607809 | 2007-11-03 18:39:00 | The health inspectors enforce the laws in establishments and such, the police can see if the parent/adult is smoking and there's a kid in the car and people in general will just act rude and say things to people who smoke in public.I can see the point in some cases, like the adult who smokes in a car full of kids he/she/it is picking up from the school, but outside a building? On the street? If someone is smoking in a way that doesn't smoke out the living or working environment of others, then how can we claim they are doing others some kind of injustice? Or perhaps it's now been updated to an obscene act? We may see people openly smoking on the street, taking that roll of rice paper and burning dried leaves to the mouth, sucking on it seductively, and breathing out the smoke in a obscene self satisfied way.. in public no less! THIS WILL NOT DO! Whichever, we seem to have a new group to point the witch finger at, with all the stupidy and hysteria that comes with each new labelling of each decades witches. |
personthingy (1670) | ||
| 607810 | 2007-11-03 18:43:00 | Witches? DUCK ! | R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 607811 | 2007-11-03 18:48:00 | Witches? DUCK !Yes, the ducks are witches too. I'll bet when we're not looking they'll be off under the bridges smoking their evil tobacco products, the dirty dirty ducks! I've seen it in a vision you know, so it must be true ;) | personthingy (1670) | ||
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