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Thread ID: 84509 2007-11-08 18:30:00 Howard Broad should resign Digby (677) PC World Chat
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609592 2007-11-08 18:30:00 Hi Guys

For once I agree with Hone Hawira - the Police Commissioner Howard Broad should resign - right now !

He said that he was pinning his reputation on the terror raids and now the Solicitor General says there is no case to answer under this act.

But I am glad the police did act when they did, these things need to be got on top of.

Regards

Digby
Digby (677)
609593 2007-11-08 19:02:00 .... the Solicitor General says there is no case to answer under this act.

But I am glad the police did act when they did, these things need to be got on top of.


Make up your mind.

The Solicitor General did not say that, he said that the Act was too complex to use in this case and "I wish also to stress that the police have successfully brought to an end what were very disturbing activities."
PaulD (232)
609594 2007-11-08 19:38:00 Make up your mind.

The Solicitor General did not say that, he said that the Act was too complex to use in this case and "I wish also to stress that the police have successfully brought to an end what were very disturbing activities."

Yes I have to agree with PaulD, Digby. You want to get your facts right before you post on a public forum.
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Trev (427)
609595 2007-11-08 19:54:00 Read this Digby.
www.nzherald.co.nz
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Trev (427)
609596 2007-11-08 19:58:00 Once again we are being subjected to Trial By Media. The people with the loudest voices getting the most sympathy.

With a topic this sensitive, and guaranteed to be a massive political hot potato, it wouldn't have been entered into lightly.

Wait for the trial before deciding who is at fault.
Mercury (1316)
609597 2007-11-08 19:58:00 If Broad is a good Christian (bio says) and an honourable man he will resign.
If he is a bad Christian and an unhonourable man he wont resign.
He should of checked legislation properly before charging the Tuhoe people and their friends. Cant blame the law as written afterwards.
If disturbing is running around the hills with guns then someone the Solictor General should get a life. I wouldnt mind doing it myself bit of fun in my otherwise dreary poultry life.
Just shows incompentence with a bit of Maori bashing thrown in.
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chicken one (6501)
609598 2007-11-08 20:41:00 Well that really shows someone who is in possession of all the important facts about this case chicken one. I must admit that I am withholding my opinion on the case until ALL the facts are brought out into the open. And this won't occur until the court cases. Still, hasn't stopped the most vocal elements spouting their c*** to the ever listening media... user (1404)
609599 2007-11-08 20:53:00 Apparently unless the charges could be laid under the Terrorism Act, all the facts can't be made public. The Court cases will be over the firearms charges and the other evidence can't be used.

This is very unsatisfactory. Do all the involved end up on an international travel sh*t list without ever having a day in court?
PaulD (232)
609600 2007-11-08 21:14:00 If Broad is a good Christian (bio says) and an honourable man he will resign.
If he is a bad Christian and an unhonourable man he wont resign.
He should of checked legislation properly before charging the Tuhoe people and their friends. Cant blame the law as written afterwards.

Broad doesn't have much of my sympathy, but he did say that the Police sought legal opinion throughout the process.

To be fair, he could not have predicted that the Solicitor General would label the Terrorism Suppression Act as incoherent and unnecessarily complex. Nor should he have made such a prediction - as that is not the Police brief. If the law is unworkable as it stands then it needs to be sent back to the House.
Deane F (8204)
609601 2007-11-08 23:00:00 Broad doesn't have much of my sympathy, but he did say that the Police sought legal opinion throughout the process.

To be fair, he could not have predicted that the Solicitor General would label the Terrorism Suppression Act as incoherent and unnecessarily complex. Nor should he have made such a prediction - as that is not the Police brief. If the law is unworkable as it stands then it needs to be sent back to the House.

If its unworkable against a few non terrorist local people running around the hills then the legislation is just fine as it is. Otherwise police will use terrorist laws against protestors. You cant trust the police to act responsibly in this believe me. They either rush in and do dumb things or take their time and make dumb decisions.
There were 2 camps in this issue camp one was the police have overstepped the mark and that terrorist charges would be dropped this camp was about99.9% of the population. The other camp said wait and see which implies the terrorist charges would stick.
Now there are 2 more camps one is the police have over reacted and stuffed up the law, about 99.9% of population. Other camp says hey wait till arms charges are proffered. Its easy for people in camp 2 say wait but that means innocent people are in jail now on remand.
The police cant just throw mega bad charges for stuff then downgrading them. That aint justice.
The last resort is the police may charge Tuhoe for littering, empty cartridge cases in the bush.
The worst thing about all of this thw world press were quick to make headlines saying terrorist activity in Nz. None now have retracted the statements saying the so called terrorists are innocent of terrorism.
These are proper terrorists www.smh.com.au
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chicken one (6501)
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