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| Thread ID: 84610 | 2007-11-12 02:46:00 | Sickness Benefit | Enigmur (10547) | PC World Chat |
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| 610790 | 2007-11-13 04:23:00 | Ha! So it's our money these gits take so that means you're allowed to be so much more indignant about the fact that there are abuses of a system? Sod the system,thats for the likes of you,no it's my money being used against my wishes that concerns me. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 610791 | 2007-11-13 08:30:00 | Sod the system,thats for the likes of you,no it's my money being used against my wishes that concerns me. Well, that's what you get with democracy I suppose - one man; one vote. As Lord Chief Justice Halisham said, "There is no way of having a free society in which there is not abuse. Abuse is the very hallmark of liberty." |
Deane F (8204) | ||
| 610792 | 2007-11-13 08:51:00 | Well, that's what you get with democracy I suppose - one man; one vote. As Lord Chief Justice Halisham said, "There is no way of having a free society in which there is not abuse. Abuse is the very hallmark of liberty." As Cicero said,some are sent to try us and induce abuse,your mirror will show you such a specimen. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 610793 | 2007-11-13 09:01:00 | Initially I had sympathy - I know officialdom can be bizarre & ridiculous. But I don't see it in this case. You two CHOOSE to have 2 residences. Do you want to live together? The answer seem to be no, you want everyone else to fund the best of both worlds. Storage? As pointed out, $100-$200/mth is available, so it's a meaningless argument. Space to run a business? Maybe more relevent. But it's a choice BOTH (presumably) make. If where you're in is too small even with compromises, would a NEW house for both be better than the current situation? If you don't want to co-habit, fine. But why get snotty if you can't get funded for that choice?. I like NZs welfare system by and large. Taxpayer central funded welfare/health/education is a good thing. It's economically efficient for you libertarians. But it does breed in some an idea of entitlement that goes way beyond what the people who PAY for it should allow. |
mmmork (6822) | ||
| 610794 | 2007-11-13 09:10:00 | As Cicero said,some are sent to try us and induce abuse,your mirror will show you such a specimen. Ahh, I know it pains you to have somebody disagree with you Cicero. So what, people rip off the social welfare system? It's an unavoidable part of having such a system - if the rules are too tight it will fail its brief. And if they are too loose it will be too easily abused. While the policy analysts, the bureaucrats and the legislators might fail to hit the mark exactly - I'd trust them ahead of 90 percent of the people I meet. |
Deane F (8204) | ||
| 610795 | 2007-11-13 09:15:00 | Ahh, I know it pains you to have somebody disagree with you Cicero. So what, people rip off the social welfare system? It's an unavoidable part of having such a system - if the rules are too tight it will fail its brief. And if they are too loose it will be too easily abused. While the policy analysts, the bureaucrats and the legislators might fail to hit the mark exactly - I'd trust them ahead of 90 percent of the people I meet. Which unfortunately doesn't say a lot for 90% of people you meet, Deane! :D |
johcar (6283) | ||
| 610796 | 2007-11-13 09:39:00 | When one reads Court reports, it seems "Sickness Beneficiary" is treated as an occupation in a similar manner to Bona Fide Jobs. Also from Court Reports some of these "Sickness Beneficiaries" seem to be remarkably fit and agile individuals considering their flight from the law or the struggle put up to evade apprehension. |
KenESmith (6287) | ||
| 610797 | 2007-11-13 09:45:00 | A sickness benefit is a means of livelihood - therefore it fits the definition of occupation. | Deane F (8204) | ||
| 610798 | 2007-11-13 17:27:00 | Nobody begrudges those that have for no fault of there own have fallen on hard times being helped by we taxpayers,the problem is that over time the definition of who these people are becomes blurred,there lies the rub. What we do know is that they grow exponentially,like weeds. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 610799 | 2007-11-13 18:17:00 | What we do know is that they grow exponentially,like weeds. Any figures? |
Deane F (8204) | ||
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