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Thread ID: 84566	2007-11-10 07:58:00	Digital Camera <$1000 ??	Lorcan (12618)	PC World Chat

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610265	2007-11-13 18:24:00	Pop in your (electric) car and get down to a helpful shop; you can only do so much research and personal recommendations. Having said that the Canon 400D is a very nice SLR but then again, I don't own one.	dolby digital (5073)
610266	2007-11-13 18:25:00	The Nikon D40x is very light and quite small. But I tend to agree with Morpheus1 - that having the camera means you get the shot. If you're travelling and you decide to go out for a meal, for instance, you would probably not take the SLR (and it's bag, spare lense etc) with you - and you might miss the opportunity to take a great shot. The hard out photographers I've known never even get out of their car without their camera. One guy always has a camera in the car, one in his bag at all times. So he had a camera when there was an armed offenders callout in Chch city and got a brilliant shot of a policewoman holding an assault rifle - standing underneath a massage parlour sign...	Deane F (8204)
610267	2007-11-13 18:43:00	I can always remember Peter Bush, the sports photographer saying that his camera of choice for holidays was an Olympus Mu - 28mm fixed focal length lens (no zoom) with a lens of incredible sharpness. I tried this and guess what, he was right. I realise that film cameras are a no no these days but perhaps something along the lines of this would be best. After all, it is not the camera that takes the photo, it is the person who presses the shutter. The quality is set by the lens and the photographer's technique and his eye for a picture. Perhaps there is a digital camera that will do a similar job? For instance, Samsung has a Schneider Kreuznach lens In my day, these were top notch and quite expensive lenses. I don't know much about digital cameras but I do know the importance of lens quality. What about this one with a Leica lens www.photowarehouse.co.nz Something like this is what I would go for. My wife took 11 photos last weekend and 9 of them were fuzzy. She holds the camera out from her body in one hand and then blames the camera for the fuzzy results. I rarely use the LCD screen, having done semi professional work for some pre digital years. I may frame the picture using it, but bring the camera up to my eye and tuck my elbows in to my sides. Hence, 99% sharp photos. A tripod gives the best results and you can get small pocket ones for travel. These much maligned objects (by travellers) are the greatest things since sliced bread. Just my thoughts Ken PS Just found a review on the Panasonic www.letsgodigital.org	kenj (9738)
610268	2007-11-13 19:04:00	I can always remember Peter Bush, the sports photographer saying that his camera of choice for holidays was an Olympus Mu - 28mm fixed focal length lens (no zoom) with a lens of incredible sharpness. I tried this and guess what, he was right. Most digcams have the equivalent of wide angle 35 mm. There are some that have an optical zoom with 28 mm wide angle - my son has one and it is small and thin. Back in my film days (had a photography business for a few years) I had a telephoto, 28 mm wide angle, and 50 mm Nikor lenses. Used the 28 mm far more than the telephoto. Eventually bought a 28 - 70 mm zoom, and the telephoto was hardly used. Lorcan, do you plan to publish or print large photos (11 x 14 or larger)? If not, then the G9 could be an overkill. Read the reviews and user comments - prepare to spend a few hours as there is much info out there. And try a google image search using each camera you are considering - I did this for my cellphone/camera and found quite a few large photos posted by users that showed clarity and detail.	Morpheus1 (186)
610269	2007-11-13 19:31:00	(snip) What about this one with a Leica lens www.photowarehouse.co.nz (snip) PS Just found a review on the Panasonic www.letsgodigital.org Full review here: www.dpreview.com	John H (8)
610270	2007-11-13 19:59:00	Full review here: www.dpreview.com Thanks John H - that was interesting reading. How things have changed, 17 scene modes!!! My first serious cameras were a Pentax Spotmatic (with 24mm, 50mm and 100mm screw lenses) and a Rollieflex TLR with a 80mm f/2.8 Rollei Planar lens. Add to this, a weston meter and a B&W darkroom and I thought I was made. Aaaah those were the days. We had to do all these things ourselves. Now you just press a button. Ken	kenj (9738)
610271	2007-11-13 20:04:00	My wife took 11 photos last weekend and 9 of them were fuzzy . She holds the camera out from her body in one hand and then blames the camera for the fuzzy results . The image stabilisation feature in my camera eliminates that, even on full zoom . Absolutely fantastic . :cool:	FoxyMX (5)
610272	2007-11-13 20:28:00	Is there any benefit to going Entry Level D-SLR? (snip) Can you get by with just that? Or will this just be too bulky for traveling? Here is a recent release by Olympus: www.dpreview.com No full review on that site, but it is an update of an earlier model that is reviewed in full: www.dpreview.com I had been wondering about getting an SLR as well, and this one is about as small as they get. However, when I checked it out at my local shop (Photo and Video in the Merivale Mall, ChaCha), I realised it was far too bulky for travel, given the concerns that my wife and I have about our present Olympus C5050Z. I think SLRs are really out for travelling, unless photography is the key reason for your travels. We travel for other reasons, and photography is ancillary to that - to us it is for fun and for keeping a record of places we have been, people we have met, and family. We would like a camera that has similar image quality to the one we already have, with less bulk. We got really sick of our camera during 6 weeks travelling around Britain and Ireland last year. Just my two bob's worth, but there may be some use in that experience for you. I have noticed that most of my adult kid's friends go for the pocket digicamera when they are travelling (may be for budget reasons, but I think it is really for convenience - they are more interested in photos as a travel record, and the super crisp 'blowupable to poster size' pix aren't a priority).	John H (8)
610273	2007-11-13 20:37:00	I can always remember Peter Bush, the sports photographer saying that his camera of choice for holidays was an Olympus Mu - 28mm fixed focal length lens (no zoom) with a lens of incredible sharpness. I tried this and guess what, he was right. (snip) Ken (snip) Two members of my family who are really interested in photography for its own sake agreed with him. One was a mountaineer, who started taking an Olympus mju tucked inside his shirt/jacket when he was on climbs - his SLRs were hopeless when he was hanging off a peg up a steep face in the Alps. He got some brilliant pix that he would not have taken otherwise. The other one was a part time professional photographer (weddings, car races etc). He used a mju for enjoyment, and got some brilliant pix that way. It is often who is behind the camera as much as what kind of camera it happens to be, but using these wee cameras means you use them more often because you are more willing to take them with you.	John H (8)
610274	2007-11-13 20:58:00	Two members of my family who are really interested in photography for its own sake agreed with him. One was a mountaineer, who started taking an Olympus mju tucked inside his shirt/jacket when he was on climbs - his SLRs were hopeless when he was hanging off a peg up a steep face in the Alps. He got some brilliant pix that he would not have taken otherwise. The other one was a part time professional photographer (weddings, car races etc). He used a mju for enjoyment, and got some brilliant pix that way. It is often who is behind the camera as much as what kind of camera it happens to be, but using these wee cameras means you use them more often because you are more willing to take them with you. There used to be some great stuff around. I still have an Olympus XA www.cameraquest.com in my odds 'n sods drawer. I carried that one everwhere and used it for print film and my SLR for slides. The XA was so sharp, the image could be used to slice bread. :D Now that was a compact Ken :) :)	kenj (9738)
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