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| Thread ID: 84491 | 2007-11-07 21:04:00 | Xtra/Yahoo Spam Filter @#%&** | Winston001 (3612) | PC World Chat |
| Post ID | Timestamp | Content | User | ||
| 609311 | 2007-11-08 04:08:00 | Lol I feel the same way. Ce est la vie |
winmacguy (3367) | ||
| 609312 | 2007-11-08 04:28:00 | :eek: aaaarrrgggghhhh |
Metla (12) | ||
| 609313 | 2007-11-08 04:40:00 | :eek: aaaarrrgggghhhh Does that come with more than one syllable? |
winmacguy (3367) | ||
| 609314 | 2007-11-08 05:00:00 | Blacklisted? That would mean no Xnet mail would get through. Is a case that something is broken relaying your domain mail that needs Xnet to be Whitelisted to overcome? I don't know, only Xnet and Yahoo would know that. However Xnet have confirmed that there is a problem which they are trying to fix. However I think it may just be a certain pool of Xnet IPs. Also other peoples email maybe getting through because those xtra customers may have already whitelisted those particular email addresses, or imported their address book, which you can only do if you use the bubble. ALso when you are an xtra customer using outlook only, you don't actually know that you haven't received an email, unless you were expecting an email. The header of the wrongly classified email in Yahoos bulk bin has the following tags. X-YahooFilteredBulk: 58.2#.#.## X-Originating-IP: [58.2#.#.##] There is an article on the stuff website www.stuff.co.nz about the problem, and I also came across this blog discussing a similar problem. luciddesign.wordpress.com Xtra and Yahoo causing major problems with email in New Zealand October 24th, 2007 After their considerable teething problems with their new “Xtra Bubble” service, it is astounding that Xtra (or maybe it’s Yahoo) have implemented new spamming techniques that seem to prevent emails from being delivered if redirected through a shared web server. This is a very common technique for email delivery for small to medium-sized companies who wish to get emails @theirdomain.co.nz without having to setup a whole new email account.In a way it almost feels like the golden age of email has passed and it is no longer a reliable method of communication. We have all become so reliant on email and we assume our messages get delivered if we don’t get a bounced message but many many people are reporting that they simply are not getting their emails.After a call to Xtra’s help desk (where it is acknowledged that there is a problem due to Xtra now using Yahoo’s mail services), I was required to fill out a form followed by a very comprehensive email survey about my emailing techniques basically to clarify that I am not a spammer…. It does seem, however, that they have actually taken it on board and possibly moved our servers and IP address off their “black list” but I’m not convinced and have no choice but to basically advise clients to move away from Xtra for their emails as it’s just not reliable enough.I’m even wondering if they’re scanning emails for viruses and spam when sending through Xtra as I have cases of people’s emails not being sent (with no error!)….Very bad form from such a big company that so many people rely upon.If someone would like to clarify any of this or share their experiences with this problem, we would be very grateful to hear from you. |
robbyp (2751) | ||
| 609315 | 2007-11-08 05:10:00 | :eek: aaaaargggghhhhh. Indeed,it would make a saint choke,deep breaths if it gets to much. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 609316 | 2007-11-08 05:27:00 | I don't know, only Xnet and Yahoo would know that. However Xnet have confirmed that there is a problem which they are trying to fix. However I think it may just be a certain pool of Xnet IPs. Also other peoples email maybe getting through because those xtra customers may have already whitelisted those particular email addresses, or imported their address book, which you can only do if you use the bubble. ALso when you are an xtra customer using outlook only, you don't actually know that you haven't received an email, unless you were expecting an email. The header of the wrongly classified email in Yahoos bulk bin has the following tags. X-YahooFilteredBulk: 58.2#.#.## X-Originating-IP: [58.2#.#.##] There is an article on the stuff website www.stuff.co.nz about the problem, and I also came across this blog discussing a similar problem. luciddesign.wordpress.com Xtra and Yahoo causing major problems with email in New Zealand October 24th, 2007 After their considerable teething problems with their new “Xtra Bubble” service, it is astounding that Xtra (or maybe it’s Yahoo) have implemented new spamming techniques that seem to prevent emails from being delivered if redirected through a shared web server. This is a very common technique for email delivery for small to medium-sized companies who wish to get emails @theirdomain.co.nz without having to setup a whole new email account.In a way it almost feels like the golden age of email has passed and it is no longer a reliable method of communication. We have all become so reliant on email and we assume our messages get delivered if we don’t get a bounced message but many many people are reporting that they simply are not getting their emails.After a call to Xtra’s help desk (where it is acknowledged that there is a problem due to Xtra now using Yahoo’s mail services), I was required to fill out a form followed by a very comprehensive email survey about my emailing techniques basically to clarify that I am not a spammer…. It does seem, however, that they have actually taken it on board and possibly moved our servers and IP address off their “black list” but I’m not convinced and have no choice but to basically advise clients to move away from Xtra for their emails as it’s just not reliable enough.I’m even wondering if they’re scanning emails for viruses and spam when sending through Xtra as I have cases of people’s emails not being sent (with no error!)….Very bad form from such a big company that so many people rely upon.If someone would like to clarify any of this or share their experiences with this problem, we would be very grateful to hear from you. But XXXXX is far better than Xtra, Orcon, Ihug, Woosh etc so I have been told by members on this forum. To take this a little further, "Quite frankly I don't give a damn." Apologies to Rhett Butler. Xtra works for me anyway. Go do your own thing. Pay for what you get. If you do not like the price or service then use your brain and think about a budget. People need to think about where they live and what service(s) may be available in the area. Taking the budget. Go work. Save the pocket money. Buy your own ISP and etc. |
Sweep (90) | ||
| 609317 | 2007-11-08 06:12:00 | Ce est la vie "C'est la vie" perhaps? |
roddy_boy (4115) | ||
| 609318 | 2007-11-08 08:31:00 | Anyone running a business should have their own domain name. This is then used as their business email address and stationery and business cards never have to be changed if changing ISPs. I agree, just haven't got around to it. My mental block is I want a web page and need to write the information to go on it. Quite a challenge to be informative and stand out from others, as well as attract search engine 'bots. |
Winston001 (3612) | ||
| 609319 | 2007-11-08 08:34:00 | I'd recommend you reserve a URL immediatly and use it for email, even if you never get a page published online. It will save a lot of hassle, and the sooner you do it the easier the transition will be to your new address. |
Metla (12) | ||
| 609320 | 2007-11-08 08:35:00 | "C'est la vie" perhaps? That would be the one, my french is a tad rusty. |
winmacguy (3367) | ||
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