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Thread ID: 84855	2007-11-21 03:21:00	Allergy Thoughts	SurferJoe46 (51)	PC World Chat

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613559	2007-11-22 20:04:00	Can you tell what side is mine? Trick question? Both sides.	Metla (12)
613560	2007-11-22 20:05:00	Watchin the vid made he hungry . . . . funny how ya paused on yer truck lol Those are all relatives on my wife's side of the family . My wife Rosanna is the one in the blue/white blouse . Her three sons, David (the young guy with the Frisbee®), Tim (the older one with the glasses and gray tee shirt . . he's a cop) and Joe the bum; her daughter Sarah (the heavy-set one) and her husband Jeff; her older sister Mary in the black outfit, and her husband Doug with the baseball hat and the other camera . There are grandkids . . . Sarah/Jeff = Ian (the big baby!), and Michael (still crib-bound and the biggest noise too) Joe (no wife) = Gabriel . . the nasty little guy with the largest vocabulary Tim/Melonie (not present) = Paige, the little blonde girl, and Emma, her sister . . maybe not evident, but there . This was just a little park . . a greenbelt really . . . between housing tracts near our place . It was just build a few weeks ago and is still very newish . I'm back from fishing early . . too crowded . . it's Thanksgiving Day here today and there are just TMP at the lake right now . (TMP= too many people) . This is a four day holiday for the US and everything but Wal-Mart is closed in preparation of "Black Friday" or the day after sales in the stores . There are people lined up to get first crack at the sales . . and the stores don't even open for another day yet . Sheeesh! We don't bother celebrating the holiday . . . not for religious reasons . . it's just too much hassle . Today my wife is cooking a really good potato soup and baking some bread . The neighbors are all out either b-b-q ing their turkeys or steaks or some other dead animal . . YUM! The air is rife with the smells of searing flesh and the sounds of relatives getting drunk . I expect to see the police here in the neighborhood sometime today to haul a few drunk illegal "immigrants" away . Our first night below freezing was last night too . But my garden is still producing as I covered my eggplant up with newspaper cones . Not much harvest left now . Gonna burn a few dvds and cds . :cool:	SurferJoe46 (51)
613561	2007-11-22 20:17:00	We use rods for fishing here,poles are for climbing up . Strange looking bed . So old fashioned,which I know you yankies like . We have lightning rods, A-Rod, hot-rods and we rod-out our clogged sewer lines . We have fishing poles, flag poles, Poles from Poland, North/South Poles . . . . but a pole for fishing would be too heavy . . . like the taber toss in Scotland . Anybody who'd go fishing with a taber could just stand on the shore and tell the fish to come out of the water I guess . :blush:	SurferJoe46 (51)
613562	2007-11-22 20:18:00	Trick question? Both sides. My side doesn't have the stuffed animals or the fuzzy pink slippers.	SurferJoe46 (51)
613563	2007-11-22 21:06:00	Did it come with those steps as in the brochure? I'm sure I would need them!!	bonzo29 (2348)
613564	2007-11-22 22:02:00	Did it come with those steps as in the brochure? I'm sure I would need them!! Yeah..the darned steps are heavy too! I just leave them on my wife's side of the bed so she can get in and out..actually out is a little easier for her..lol.	SurferJoe46 (51)
613565	2007-11-22 22:49:00	No . . . it's all planks of oak . . . some of the unfinished and unseen parts under the bed are less than prime surface pattern . . . but no chip/particle board at all . Here's the pixs of it in my room: . imagef1 . net . nz/files/100_04201195748094 . jpg" target="_blank">www . imagef1 . net . nz . imagef1 . net . nz/files/100_0421 . JPG" target="_blank">www . imagef1 . net . nz Can you tell what side is mine? I had to get a couple of guys to help deliver it for me . . . it has some really big parts, but there is some assembly required . We never found any softwoods or blemished wood in it anywhere . . . even where it doesn't show . I believe that the headboard has some vernier and maybe the drawer faces too . . but it's really hard to see if there's any facade verniers at all . The eight drawers are functional . . . the linens are in a couple of the wide side ones and my stuff in the end ones on the foot board . The top of the mattress is at my belly button . . . my wife uses the step stool to get in but I don't have any troubles . I had it since April and it seems that I'd notice if there's less odor by now . . but with the colder weather coming on and the windows closed more during the day, maybe I can smell the woods more now . Did you import it yourself, or did you buy it from a NZ retailer? I think it is likely to be the varnish that is used . Polyurathane is one of the most toxic substances , and it offgases for years, and some people can become allergic to it over time . The ad says it is oak veneer, so it is very likely that the think layers of oak are over a MDF or particle board . Sometimes it can be difficult to tell until you look closely at it . Also where was it made?It wasn't china was it? I hope not, as you don't know what they have used to glue it all together and what other chemcials are in the materials . If it is china, you can assume that it is built as cheaply as possible, as that is the reason why companies subcontract to china .	robbyp (2751)
613566	2007-11-23 02:27:00	Did you import it yourself, or did you buy it from a NZ retailer? I think it is likely to be the varnish that is used. Polyurathane is one of the most toxic substances , and it offgases for years, and some people can become allergic to it over time. The ad says it is oak veneer, so it is very likely that the think layers of oak are over a MDF or particle board. Sometimes it can be difficult to tell until you look closely at it. Also where was it made?It wasn't china was it? I hope not, as you don't know what they have used to glue it all together and what other chemcials are in the materials. If it is china, you can assume that it is built as cheaply as possible, as that is the reason why companies subcontract to china. If that came from NZ I will eat my hat.	Cicero (40)
613567	2007-11-23 02:43:00	It came from Solano Italy . . there are many places that sell the same bed with different titles on them . . and I looked pretty hard for particle board . . . not anyplace that I could see where there might be any . I saw the statement of product and the bill of goods in Italian and the customs stamps with a certification that there were no hazardous materials in the construction . Port of entry was New York . . so I guess it came over with Columbus . Some of the quality tip-off is the hardware . . . all beautifully done and the screws and dowels are all fitted nicely . The handles and the face plates are solid, not stamped out of thin metal and pot metal brackets . I looked at all the inner back sides, supports and wing pieces and all the end stock where the boards are cut . . even the inner, not-for-show ones aren't pressed wood . The shipping weight was 700 lbs/317 . 51kg, and I believe it! It doesn't appear that any plastic coating is used either as they provided a couple of bottles of scratch stain and also surface cleaner that are very oily . . and I don't suppose oil is good for anything but bare wood .	SurferJoe46 (51)
613568	2007-11-23 03:08:00	It came from Solano Italy . . there are many places that sell the same bed with different titles on them . . and I looked pretty hard for particle board . . . not anyplace that I could see where there might be any . I saw the statement of product and the bill of goods in Italian and the customs stamps with a certification that there were no hazardous materials in the construction . Port of entry was New York . . so I guess it came over with Columbus . Some of the quality tip-off is the hardware . . . all beautifully done and the screws and dowels are all fitted nicely . The handles and the face plates are solid, not stamped out of thin metal and pot metal brackets . I looked at all the inner back sides, supports and wing pieces and all the end stock where the boards are cut . . even the inner, not-for-show ones aren't pressed wood . The shipping weight was 700 lbs/317 . 51kg, and I believe it! It doesn't appear that any plastic coating is used either as they provided a couple of bottles of scratch stain and also surface cleaner that are very oily . . and I don't suppose oil is good for anything but bare wood . Some times it is very difficult to tell if wood is solid or not, as if the veneer is done well, it is glued to all edges without any gaps . I am sure that some of it really is solid timber, however if it was all solid oak, I would suspect that it would have been alot more expensive than what you paid for it . You may find that the panels are Oak plywood . I think it would still weigh the same if it was solid timber or not . However that doesn't answer the problem with the smell, which is most likely coming from the surface coatings . You maybe should contact the seller, as they may know something about it .	robbyp (2751)
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