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Thread ID: 85095 2007-11-29 17:40:00 Virii (viruses?); where do people find them? Myth (110) PC World Chat
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616540 2007-11-29 17:40:00 Have just finished cleaning a laptop with 30 virii; which is the most I've seen (but then again I am just a part timer). Some of these included Smitfraud, Zlog, and Vundo. I was just wondering where people find these virii from? The client regularly leaves the house each sunday ;)

Also, what tools do the pro's use for Smitfraud, Vundo. Those 2 took the longest to eliminate, are there sure-fire fixes out there?
Myth (110)
616541 2007-11-29 17:58:00 <missed the 15 minute deadline> incidentally, the Sunday reference was only inferring that I doubt the client cruises porn sites, warez etc. However I may be wrong on that Myth (110)
616542 2007-11-29 18:36:00 Are you a hacker?

"Hackers like to use “virii” as the plural form of “virus,” but Latin scholars object that this invented term does not follow standard patterns in that language, and that there is already a perfectly good plural in English: “viruses.”"

www.wsu.edu:8001
--Wolf-- (128)
616543 2007-11-29 18:58:00 They go to dodgy sites, install rogue / dodgy software.

They dont have a firewall or AV program.

They use P2P programs, and dont scan whatever first, before they run it / use it
Speedy Gonzales (78)
616544 2007-11-29 19:22:00 I've just cleaned up a PC with some of the most difficult to remove spyware that I've come across, including the ones Myth mentioned - Zlob, Vundo, SmitFraud, etc .

I have only just reformatted that computer a couple of months ago due to other reasons and set it up with anti-virus and anti-spyware programs . No firewall however, as the owner is a gentlemen in his late sixies or early seventies and a stroke victim so didn't want anything "complicated" .

How the PC got infected I don't know as I doubt the chap would be browsing dodgy sites and anyway, there was no evidence of dodgy internet browsing . They receive very little email but I wouldn't totally discount them getting infected that way .

Zlob is a particularly nasty one as once it is installed it then downloads and installs a whole heap of other nasty stuff so it just builds up into a massively infected machine . It is also a pig of a thing to remove . :(
FoxyMX (5)
616545 2007-11-29 19:27:00 smitrem

and

VundoFix.exe
drcspy (146)
616546 2007-11-29 19:29:00 Infecting others by coughing on them while sick usually works :xmouth: bob_doe_nz (92)
616547 2007-11-29 19:33:00 They go to dodgy sites, install rogue / dodgy software.

They dont have a firewall or AV program.

They use P2P programs, and dont scan whatever first, before they run it / use it

Not necessarily. They just go online without protection. Or don't scan after.

I have one here, lady only does email and Trademe. Its got a few spywares and 2 viruses.

Read this:
news.bbc.co.uk

The criminals poisoned search results using thousands of domains set up to convince search index software they were serious sources of information.
pctek (84)
616548 2007-11-29 19:48:00 Well it depends on WHAT the person has got.

Most nasties you get are either from P2P programs, IM programs, or installing crap / rogue software.

And not updating Windows, or installing a decent firewall / AV program.

And some people are just plain dumb. They shouldnt have a computer, in the first place.
Speedy Gonzales (78)
616549 2007-11-30 02:26:00 Smitfraud actually made it onto some advertising on a major US baseball site, but I don't think it has infiltrated any of the sites that most NZers frequent (apart from porn sites).

smitrem takes care of it fairly well, but for some reason, no resident antivirus protection seems to be able to prevent the infection.

A firewall is very unlikely to stop you getting infected - almost all the nasty stuff these days is either installed from a website using a browser exploit, or it is part of a file that people knowingly download.
Greven (91)
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