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Thread ID: 85071 2007-11-28 18:58:00 Let's Match Indigenous Animals SurferJoe46 (51) PC World Chat
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616058 2007-11-29 03:41:00 Wanna go for spiders now?



Katipo (www.tepapa.govt.nz) 		Biggles (121)
616059 2007-11-29 03:44:00 Not sure, but I don't think even zoos are allowed snakes. They've never had any at Auckland zoo as far as I can remember. Anyone know?

I've never seen one in Ak, Wgtn or Orana Park zoos. I don't suppose there is any reason to keep them for making anti venom medication - maybe they are regarded as too much of a risk. I know there has been an almighty panic when shedded skins have been found, or snakes have been detected in cargo! Quite right too! 		John H (8)
616060 2007-11-29 03:47:00 Here is the answer, if this article is kosher.

www.biosecurity.govt.nz

Absolutely prohibited. 		John H (8)
616061 2007-11-29 04:15:00 Squid rings (en.wikipedia.org) anyone? :p

... current estimates put its maximum size at 12–14 metres (39–46 feet) long 		Jen (38)
616062 2007-11-29 07:21:00 And Joe, if you've ever seen this movie:

Arachnophobia (www.imdb.com)

the spiders starring in it are in fact these guys from the Auckland suburb of Avondale (although they are an Aussie import):

Avondale Spider (www.tepapa.govt.nz)

"These spiders featured in the movie Arachnophobia. Australian regulations prohibited their export from there as they are native wildlife. However, the New Zealand population has no such protection and staff at Landcare Research in Auckland were able to provide enough spiders for the movie."

Although in true Hollywood fashion, the real spiders aren't vicious poisionous man-killers. 		Biggles (121)
616063 2007-11-29 07:55:00 Here is the answer, if this article is kosher.

www.biosecurity.govt.nz

Absolutely prohibited.

Yes, import of any snake - even harmless varieties - is absolutely prohibited here - for zoos also.

And bearing in mind how zoos occasionally have escapees, in spite of their security efforts (Remember that cute Auckland Zoo otter who led everyone on a merry dance for days & days?), I'm personally delighted about that.

I didn't feel at all disadvantaged by not having seen a live snake until I went to an Australian snake zoo.
It was a fascinating experience. I was glad I'd seen them.
And I was really really glad it was there and not here...

P.S. And when you get around to birds, I've got a real Dunedin skite. 		Laura (43)
616064 2007-11-29 08:13:00 I bet SurferJoe46 does not have anything to match this in the USA.

www.chemistry.co.nz

A short Moa maybe.

And native to New Zealand

Never been bitten by one, 		Sweep (90)
616065 2007-11-29 15:07:00 I've got a really interesting insect here .

Everybody knows about tarantulas and their fabled, although fictitious fatal stung, but did you know that the spider fears (if that be possible) another insect of the wasp family?

The are called Tarantula Hawks ( . bugman123 . com/Bugs/TarantulaHawk-large . jpg" target="_blank">www . bugman123 . com), and I have seen them a few times in areas very close to and much more metropolitan than here .

I'll c/p a little of the text of what they do . . here .


"Like all members of this genus, they require a spider to serve as host for their larvae, and in the case of the local species, tarantulas are the preferred nursery .

A female wasp finds a tarantula by smell . Generally, she scampers across the ground to locate a burrow . She will enter the burrow and expel the spider, then attack it . She may also encounter a male tarantula during his search for a mate . "

Here's the rest of the text: LINK ( . desertusa . com/mag01/sep/papr/thawk . html" target="_blank">www . desertusa . com)

There's a small Flash movie on that site . . . really interesting!

Now . . . here's the spider itself! ( . google . com/imgres?imgurl=http://bugguide . net/images/cache/3RXQTRMQNRN0DQ80CQ50OQ3K9RG03QLQOQZQWRZQWR70TQ50BR" target="_blank">images . google . com LQARHQNRKQJR0QS0SQL090YRSQYRSQYRE0L0 . jpg&imgrefurl=http://bugguide . net/node/view/5676&h=420&w=560&sz=63&hl=en&start=3&tbnid=NHiZ2nur4yk0IM:&tbnh=100&tbnw=133&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcalifornia%2Btarantula%26gbv%3D2%26sv num%3D10%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26rls%3Dorg . mozilla:en-US:official%26sa%3DG)

Notice the text under the article in case you think I'm making any of this up! 		SurferJoe46 (51)
616066 2007-11-29 15:29:00 I bet SurferJoe46 does not have anything to match this in the USA.

www.chemistry.co.nz

A short Moa maybe.

And native to New Zealand

Never been bitten by one,

I have had chickens that looked a lot like the Kiwi (www.greatnorthroad.org) especially when they are young....

...but I have a Kiwi right here: www.imagef1.net.nz

I keep it in my closet.

Here's another US bird that is just in the California badlands...nearer to Chiriaco Summit, but they can be in found and were in this area in great numbers. It's called the Prairie Chicken (www.chickendancetrail.com). They don't exist in the great numbers they used to. They are delicious. 		SurferJoe46 (51)
616067 2007-11-29 19:27:00 I am pleased to hear it said that the only indigenous mammals are bats. There are so many who call our ethnic bros "indigenous" conveniently ignoring that their own folklore says that they came from across the sea. Not only did they eat the Haast's Eagle to extinction, they ate almost everything else to extinction as well, and if that was not enough, they found that slash and burn was great fun! What they did not finish off the Kiore did. It's a wonder any vegetation, mammals or birds survived at all. Not only do they have the cheek to say that the Europeans caused all the above problems, but they still want the "customary right" to keep eating the rest of the birds, animals and fish. If they get their way there should not be too many indigenous anything, shortly. Roscoe (6288)
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