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Thread ID: 85088 2007-11-29 09:40:00 Controversial poll.. russell108 (7499) PC World Chat
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616487 2007-12-06 02:30:00 WTC7 collapse. This building may have been hit by the starboard engine that sliced through the north tower. I mentioned to the family at the time 911 happened, the plane almost missed the tower.

That engine would have stung if one was in the way of it.

Lurks.
Lurking (218)
616488 2007-12-06 11:36:00 According to the WTC architects and structural engineers none of the buildings should have collapsed anyway as they were designed to take such impacts.. russell108 (7499)
616489 2007-12-06 11:42:00 To all the folks who voted No....i challenge you to watch zeitgeist from 0.49.00 to 1.00.00 OBJECTIVELY and not be at least a LITTLE suspicious ! russell108 (7499)
616490 2007-12-06 12:24:00 To all the folks who voted No....i challenge you to watch zeitgeist from 0.49.00 to 1.00.00 OBJECTIVELY and not be at least a LITTLE suspicious !

now that is exactly why i find the official story very hard to believe



(actually a very interesting video i should find time to watch sometime)
motorbyclist (188)
616491 2007-12-06 17:08:00 According to the WTC architects and structural engineers none of the buildings should have collapsed anyway as they were designed to take such impacts..
If that's true, it's hardly surprising: their professional reputation is on the line.

But since there was no-one prior to 9/11 (apart from Al Qaeda) that even thought about the scenario of a plane taking out a building, I find it hard to believe that "they were designed to take such impacts".
johcar (6283)
616492 2007-12-06 18:45:00 If that's true, it's hardly surprising: their professional reputation is on the line .

But since there was no-one prior to 9/11 (apart from Al Qaeda) that even thought about the scenario of a plane taking out a building, I find it hard to believe that "they were designed to take such impacts" .

I have a feeling that the need for strength, in case of an airplane colliding with the building scenario, relates to the wartime happening where a B25 bomber collided with the Empire State Building . . . .

. damninteresting . com/?p=179" target="_blank">www . damninteresting . com

Ken
kenj (9738)
616493 2007-12-06 18:56:00 According to the WTC architects and structural engineers none of the buildings should have collapsed anyway as they were designed to take such impacts..

:lol: :lol:
rob_on_guitar (4196)
616494 2007-12-06 19:13:00 But since there was no-one prior to 9/11 (apart from Al Qaeda) that even thought about the scenario of a plane taking out a building, I find it hard to believe that "they were designed to take such impacts".

Not quite true..if you bothered to watch the film you would know otherwise.
russell108 (7499)
616495 2007-12-06 19:17:00 If that's true, it's hardly surprising: their professional reputation is on the line.

But since there was no-one prior to 9/11 (apart from Al Qaeda) that even thought about the scenario of a plane taking out a building, I find it hard to believe that "they were designed to take such impacts".

Russell is convinced of an inside job/conspiracy. Logic is falling on deaf ears Im afraid.
rob_on_guitar (4196)
616496 2007-12-06 19:22:00 Just for the record, and in case anybody didn't realise, one of the primary reasons for the WTC T1/T2 collapses was that the buildings had limited reserves of strength and the fireproofing insulation on the structural steel work was not properly applied in many locations . There was an excellent TV program on this some time back and IIRC there were photos taken during construction that showed the insulation problems .

Steel does not have to melt to cause a collapse, it only has to get hot enough to become malleable, which is why iron-age blacksmiths could bend and shape iron with little more than a wood fire and bellows .

With structural integrity compromised by physical damage plus intense fire over 2-3 floors, the heated metal could not sustain the weight of the floors above, which collapsed the burning floors, after which momentum (good, old-fashioned, no conspiracy required physics) put the rest into free-fall . You could see it on the videos . If you drop around 25-30% of a building 30 or so metres onto the rest, it is bound to exceed design limits and critical failure-point stresses by just the tiniest of margins don't you think?

Now, if a blow job in the Oval office (or should that be oval orifice?) can become world news, and the whistle be blown on Watergate and all the other gates since, albeit after some years had passed on some occasions, the level of planning and number of personnel required to carry out an expoit of this magnitude from the inside, including finding commercial airline pilots willing to commit suicide, would have seen more whistles blowing than a French rugby test .

Give me a break and get a life .

Cheers

Billy 8-{)
Billy T (70)
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