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| Thread ID: 100364 | 2009-06-05 00:06:00 | Do Frames block search engines? | mzee (3324) | Press F1 |
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| 779761 | 2009-06-05 00:06:00 | In the past I used Frames in Web pages, but was told that this affected the search engines so I converted everything to pages. This means that you have to place Logos, toolbars etc on every page, which is a chore & wastes page space. I have site maps installed. Do Frames block search engines? |
mzee (3324) | ||
| 779762 | 2009-06-05 00:21:00 | It's not that Frames block search engines. What happens is that the search engine sees all your site as being a single page, not a series of pages, because the URL never changes. It is best to avoid Frames. See these links: www.google.com www.google.com searchenginewatch.com |
Biggles (121) | ||
| 779763 | 2009-06-05 00:54:00 | I agree with Biggles. I had difficulty on web master tools, when I submitted one of my blog's (with frames) site map. I had to append a script to the site map, then the site map was submitted successfully. Then most of the post's individual url's were successfully indexed after about 4 days. Same could apply to embedded flash players/scripts, and streaming images... | kahawai chaser (3545) | ||
| 779764 | 2009-06-05 07:31:00 | Frames have another problem. There is no room for drop down menus to expand. Can search engines read invisible links? If I have a list of URLs with the same font colour as the screen, they can be anywhere on the page? I was thinking that it could be difficult for the spider to read drop down menus. Should also place a text link to the Home page on every page so that if Google only shows a link to that page the viewer can get to the Website. |
mzee (3324) | ||
| 779765 | 2009-06-05 07:49:00 | I have read that if sites have invisible text (and links) that don't relate to your website's content, then Google will penalize such sites (drop them way back in their database), or worse, removed from their database (de-indexed). Because it's seen as a form of "cloaking" (or a black hat trick SEO - frowned upon by Google) I think their are robot.txt files/scripts you can add, to help Google bot to search your site/menu's, etc. effectively, in addition to a optimized site map. Visit webmaster tools for info... |
kahawai chaser (3545) | ||
| 779766 | 2009-06-05 09:18:00 | Also you cannot bookmark pages other than the initial pages that come up in the frameset. | johnd (85) | ||
| 779767 | 2009-06-05 09:55:00 | I have read that if sites have invisible text (and links) that don't relate to your website's content, then Google will penalize such sites (drop them way back in their database), or worse, removed from their database (de-indexed). Because it's seen as a form of "cloaking" (or a black hat trick SEO - frowned upon by Google) I think their are robot.txt files/scripts you can add, to help Google bot to search your site/menu's, etc. effectively, in addition to a optimized site map. Visit webmaster tools for info... Absolutely. Submitting an XML format sitemap to Google via Google's webmaster tools, plus having an HTML sitemap linked from your home page is a better way of showing the search spider where all your pages are: www.google.com Hiding text is bad. It is one of the things Google specifically says to avoid: www.google.com |
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