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Thread ID: 85571	2007-12-14 20:34:00	"Breakthrough lithium battery charges to 90% in just 5 minutes"	johcar (6283)	PC World Chat

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621234	2007-12-15 09:40:00	What I find interesting is this: these cars require batteries to run, the batteries need to be charged with electricity. Most of the world uses either nuclear (with the subsequent un-biologically-friendly waste) or fossil fuels (which they are trying to replace with eco-friendly sources) to produce this electricity Rather like a dog chasing its tail	Myth (110)
621235	2007-12-15 18:48:00	What I find interesting is this: these cars require batteries to run, the batteries need to be charged with electricity. Most of the world uses either nuclear (with the subsequent un-biologically-friendly waste) or fossil fuels (which they are trying to replace with eco-friendly sources) to produce this electricity Rather like a dog chasing its tail I agree with you Myth, I have always thought that. Most countries use coal or nuclear for their power. But I suppose that in countries like NZ if we all charged our cars up at night using our hydro dams that would be good. Our hydro dams cannot store much water so we might as well use it. And wind power goes at night for free as well. If Helen Clark and Jenette Fitzsimmons both buy battery cars that will go a long way to saving the world. Regards Digby	Digby (677)
621236	2007-12-15 18:54:00	Don't be such knockers guys Battery technology has come a VERY long way in 20 years. I had one of the first mobile phones in 1980 something. The brick type. Its battery was huge, (three times bigger than a mobile phone today), was very heavy and took 12 hours to charge and only lasted half a day. So I had to have 2 and they were about $ 150 each ! and crapped out after a year. Nowadays my battery in my Motorola charges in a couple of hours and lasts me all week ! Similalry my LI-ion battery in my Nikon camera charges up fast and lasts me three or fours on intense photographic work, focussing my lense, taking pictures, and viewing them. Regards Digby	Digby (677)
621237	2007-12-15 18:59:00	Well, for those of you holding shares in one of the water-fueled vehicle systems, I can announce a breakthrough in ensuring the early adoption of these machines. I am almost ready to release a process whereby I can supply a cheap substitute for seawater. Shares are available in strictly limited quantities, just send a swag of cash and we will do the rest in privacy and absolute swiftness. We will convert your water to seawater, then through our patent pending de-salinator de-luxe, we will supply you with water warranted to be ideally suited to your water car. No order too small or too large. Send money now. Please provide a/c #,this sounds too good to be true.	Cicero (40)
621238	2007-12-15 19:24:00	How long does the battery last - hmmm, lemmie guess, half an hour? :D How long does it take to get to 100% charged? :)	pcuser42 (130)
621239	2007-12-15 23:22:00	Please provide a/c #,this sounds too good to be true. Sorry, cash only; too busy feeding banknotes into the hay baler to mess with bank transfer nonsense. As it is there are sufficient money bales to fill a truck for tomorrow's banking. This is a genuine offer, it not only sounds to good to be true, it really is ! (It was "Ring Now" that did the trick. Still had the Gensu knives in reserve. Would you be interested in a franchise deal for the entire South Island sales area?)	R2x1 (4628)
621240	2007-12-16 11:08:00	Wonder how many will explode. Ala Dell / Sony Surely a fireball is a small price to pay for convenience???? :) and a high pressure tank of gaseous hydrogen fuel or a tank of liquid petroleum fuel is any different from a reactive metal electrode? and even then, the lithium phosphate batteries don't explode when ruptured, and the lithium ion isn't going to potentially spread everywhere before ignition I think we should always be a bit sceptical of things due out. I remember the water driven care was DUE out in 10 years etc etc. yeah, i've always wondered how a car is mean to not break the laws of thermodynamics when it's generating electricity to turn water into gas at 65% energy efficiency, then burning said gas in a combustion engine at 30% efficiency, and while driving the car it's generating enough power at 80% (minus lights and air conditioning etc) to make more fuel sounds awfully like free energy to me - if they can do it and disprove established fact the laws of thermodynamics that's great, but in the meantime the closest we'll see is the mazda hydrogen RX8 What I find interesting is this: these cars require batteries to run, the batteries need to be charged with electricity. Most of the world uses either nuclear (with the subsequent un-biologically-friendly waste) or fossil fuels (which they are trying to replace with eco-friendly sources) to produce this electricity Rather like a dog chasing its tail by running electric cars they are finding a more eco-friendly way to run a car, which means cleaner environment, which is not chasing their tail FYI electric cars running on coal, gas or oil generated electricity is still cleaner than cars burning petrol:thumbs:	motorbyclist (188)
621241	2007-12-16 19:37:00	. . . by running electric cars they are finding a more eco-friendly way to run a car, which means cleaner environment, which is not chasing their tail FYI electric cars running on coal, gas or oil generated electricity is still cleaner than cars burning petrol:thumbs: The main attraction for the nimby brigade is that the pollution is moved elsewhere . (Like, say, Huntly . ) :yuck: The main thing for the bean-counting brigade, is that if it is made compulsory, there will be enormous opportunities for snouts in a very big trough . Isn't it lucky that we have so much surplus electricity? :waughh:	R2x1 (4628)
621242	2007-12-16 22:46:00	The main attraction for the nimby brigade is that the pollution is moved elsewhere . (Like, say, Huntly . ) :yuck: The main thing for the bean-counting brigade, is that if it is made compulsory, there will be enormous opportunities for snouts in a very big trough . Isn't it lucky that we have so much surplus electricity? :waughh: In the case of coal,off to Chine . What is tonnage to China?	Cicero (40)
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