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Thread ID: 85572 2007-12-14 20:49:00 just how GREEN are we? nrrrta (11415) PC World Chat
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621243 2007-12-14 20:49:00 Once upon a time some years before GST came along I used to get retreaded tires for the car, there was no tax on retreads and 10% tax (or was it 20%) there was a great saving getting retreaded tires for the car, I remember one day picking up my spare wheel that had a new retread on it, it looked near brand new, I was really impressed, A couple of days later as I was going work I was thinking about my great choice for retreads, make a great savings and get almost as good as brand new, I look down at my wheel I had put on a couple of nights before, by then all the tire paint had warn off my new tire it looked like crap, like all the the other times I had picked up my spare wheel (with no tire paint added) but this time I for the first time felt totally riped off using retreads. But I continued to use retreads for some time before and after GST came along. Then one day I failed my car warrant of fitness, part of the tread had come off from a tire that was only about a month old, I went back to the place I had got the tire from and after they agreed to replace the tire at no cost, I asked “Could I pay the difference and have the retread replaced by a new tire?” they said yes, I hope they were happy because I was, the difference was not all that much and was less then I expected. From then on I have never gone back to retread tires.

This morning I got a box of “Scored Almonds” from the supermarket, the bag inside the box was only about 60% fill, my box will go in the paper recycle “bin” but most of the other boxes I left on the shelf and I have no intentions of buying until I get the urge maybe in some months time will straight into the rubbish to end up at your local dump to be burnt off, My point is couldnt we try and delay “planet Earth death day” and use less cardboard in the box, yes I know as the Scored Almonds settle due to vibration will take up less space but to about half the size of the box come on someone get real.

Makes me wonder how well a “waste tax” would go if you market a product and most of the content is thrown out before you get around to use the product then you get a flat rate “waste tax” slapped on that product. ................ and how about no tax on retreads?
nrrrta (11415)
621244 2007-12-14 22:02:00 Once upon a time some years before GST came along I used to get retreaded tires for the car, there was no tax on retreads and 10% tax (or was it 20%) there was a great saving getting retreaded tires for the car, I remember one day picking up my spare wheel that had a new retread on it, it looked near brand new, I was really impressed, A couple of days later as I was going work I was thinking about my great choice for retreads, make a great savings and get almost as good as brand new, I look down at my wheel I had put on a couple of nights before, by then all the tire paint had warn off my new tire it looked like crap, like all the the other times I had picked up my spare wheel (with no tire paint added) but this time I for the first time felt totally riped off using retreads. But I continued to use retreads for some time before and after GST came along. Then one day I failed my car warrant of fitness, part of the tread had come off from a tire that was only about a month old, I went back to the place I had got the tire from and after they agreed to replace the tire at no cost, I asked “Could I pay the difference and have the retread replaced by a new tire?” they said yes, I hope they were happy because I was, the difference was not all that much and was less then I expected. From then on I have never gone back to retread tires.

This morning I got a box of “Scored Almonds” from the supermarket, the bag inside the box was only about 60% fill, my box will go in the paper recycle “bin” but most of the other boxes I left on the shelf and I have no intentions of buying until I get the urge maybe in some months time will straight into the rubbish to end up at your local dump to be burnt off, My point is couldnt we try and delay “planet Earth death day” and use less cardboard in the box, yes I know as the Scored Almonds settle due to vibration will take up less space but to about half the size of the box come on someone get real.

Makes me wonder how well a “waste tax” would go if you market a product and most of the content is thrown out before you get around to use the product then you get a flat rate “waste tax” slapped on that product. ................ and how about no tax on retreads?
How about no tax, at all? That would mean, no politicians, among other things... Can't be an all bad idea!!

Seriously though, who would a 'waste tax' inconvenience? Certainly not the manufacturers - the would just add it on to the price of the goods and hey presto, even MORE surplus for Michael Cullen (or whoever happens to be in power at the time) to bribe the voters with.

If tax is the answer, it must be a damn silly question!!!
johcar (6283)
621245 2007-12-14 23:33:00 How about no tax, at all? That would mean, no politicians, among other things... Can't be an all bad idea!!

Seriously though, who would a 'waste tax' inconvenience? Certainly not the manufacturers - the would just add it on to the price of the goods and hey presto, even MORE surplus for Michael Cullen (or whoever happens to be in power at the time) to bribe the voters with.

If tax is the answer, it must be a damn silly question!!!

I can feel a kindred spirit coming on.;)
Cicero (40)
621246 2007-12-15 02:35:00 My point is couldnt we try and delay “planet Earth death day”

That would be when the sun finally expands and then contracts back down and Earth, while still there, becomes a lifeless rock floating in space.

By then humans will be long gone.

We can't "kill the planet", only screw up conditions suited to our own needs.

Spare a thought for all those poor life forms that existed before that nasty, corrosive, poisonous gas came into existence on this planet - oxygen.
pctek (84)
621247 2007-12-15 03:38:00 Its coming a lot closer than the sun factor,
Its a nice warm summer day in Auckland, I know someone drying their cloths in a cloths dryer when it would dry just as fast or maybe even faster on the cloths line, just meters away, when are people going to get it, we have to stop screwing the planet? no doubt when it is too late!






That would be when the sun finally expands and then contracts back down and Earth, while still there, becomes a lifeless rock floating in space .

By then humans will be long gone .

We can't "kill the planet", only screw up conditions suited to our own needs .

Spare a thought for all those poor life forms that existed before that nasty, corrosive, poisonous gas came into existence on this planet - oxygen .
nrrrta (11415)
621248 2007-12-16 09:32:00 There was a very good letter in "The Press" Last week, with regards to dropping the GST on fruit and veg. The gentleman pointed out that in the current market, pricing is geared so that 100% of the fruit and veg that gets grown, gets sold. If there is an over supply of something, the price comes down to take up the slack, and it all gets sold. So removing the GST on these items is not going to change anything, because you will never sell more than the 100%. joemac (9739)
621249 2007-12-16 10:10:00 gst and all the other taxes on our incomes all contribute to slow inflation and pay for the services we rely on...

still pisses me off when they use a tax rather than an incentive for something useful and then blow millions on funding something useless:annoyed:


and saving the planet will only really happen when it's the cheaper short term option
motorbyclist (188)
621250 2007-12-16 17:50:00 still pisses me off when they use a tax rather than an incentive for something useful and then blow millions on funding something useless:annoyed:



Like parliament???

Ken :lol: :lol:
kenj (9738)
621251 2007-12-16 18:08:00 I thought once what does it matter if the north south pole melt, ice expands so when the ice melts would flood the world? but I forgot all the ice up in the maintains thats were all the land is disappearing from as the planet heats up. nrrrta (11415)
621252 2007-12-16 20:28:00 I laugh at the Greens campaign to stop us using plastic supermarket bags etc.

To my mind they are very useful as I use them to recycle rubbish cans newspaper in etc. They are very thin and decay in sunlight. I do not think they take up much room in landfills.

Compare them to butter containers, ice cream containers, softdrink bottles, cake containers (ex bakeries etc), they are all hard plastic and bulky in that they are large and have a large area of air inside them.

Regards

Digby
Digby (677)
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