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Thread ID: 85682	2007-12-18 17:51:00	Proposed tax cuts	Myth (110)	PC World Chat

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622484	2007-12-20 22:40:00	To try to spend suggests you think they should have in first place,when in fact they should try to rob us less from the start. Maybe that is worded wrong. Like how they spend millions on advertising for crap intead of those millions being used for maybe the above mentioned things like education, health, transport etc	rob_on_guitar (4196)
622485	2007-12-20 23:14:00	I would love tax cuts. There's already more than enough money in the system, it just needs to be spent where it will actually make a difference, not wasted on excess paper-pushers. More spending will just push up inflation, and interest rates will go up to try to curb spending and inflation. So you may get some more money, but that money will then need to be spent on higher mortgage payments.	robbyp (2751)
622486	2007-12-20 23:29:00	We are actually in the minority, only 3 people want the health system to have more. The health system doesnt have enough money, nurses are still really underpaid, facilities arent big enough for all the sick people. I guess you are right Bletch - doctors/surgeons are overpaid, but nurses get the short deal for the work they do. Public Schools can never have enough funding IMO. One thing I've always felt though my adult life is the lack of being looked after by the system - I feel as a working tax payer I should have more benefits over people who arent Actually a 1/3 of people would rather give their tax cuts to the health system than receive them directly. There is a lot of money wastage in NZ, in both the health and education system. In my area there is an entire polytech campus that is almost empty since it was closed a few years ago, including a huge new auditorium that was built only a few years before it was closed. This is government owned, and has been mothballed, and it's unknown what is going to happen to it, however I am sure it is still costing thousands to maintain it. However just down the road (less than a km) there is a state funded school, that has had new buildings being constructed every few years, including a brand new auditorium. The old polytech will now probably be pulled down, to make way for property developers, who will build more of those aweful Mc Golden Homes. Another example of a huge waste of our tax dollars.	robbyp (2751)
622487	2007-12-20 23:37:00	~ the PM doing 180kph to a rugby match She will be able to do over 220km/h in the new cars that the government are buying. $170,000 s the retail price for the new BMWs, and they are buying over 30 of them, however they have reportly got a good deal on them. Is this another example of a government who has completely lost touch with mainstream nzers. If they are commited to emmissions, they should have looked at toyota prius, or the Lexus hybrid models, which I am sure they could have got cheaper.	robbyp (2751)
622488	2007-12-21 00:01:00	[QUOTE=robbyp;626767]Actually a 1/3 of people would rather give their tax cuts to the health system than receive them directly. QUOTE] Who counted the one third??? I havent been asked. If your going off a poll then that figure is wrong.	rob_on_guitar (4196)
622489	2007-12-21 00:10:00	Actually a 1/3 of people would rather give their tax cuts to the health system than receive them directly . There is a lot of money wastage in NZ, in both the health and education system . In my area there is an entire polytech campus that is almost empty since it was closed a few years ago, including a huge new auditorium that was built only a few years before it was closed . This is government owned, and has been mothballed, and it's unknown what is going to happen to it, however I am sure it is still costing thousands to maintain it . However just down the road (less than a km) there is a state funded school, that has had new buildings being constructed every few years, including a brand new auditorium . The old polytech will now probably be pulled down, to make way for property developers, who will build more of those awful Mc Golden Homes . Another example of a huge waste of our tax dollars . If one could count the waste in spending our money,we wouldn't sleep . What is required is a forensic audit of all Gov Dept's . There has to be some decent managers somewhere to run these things half decently .	Cicero (40)
622490	2007-12-21 00:16:00	[QUOTE=robbyp;626767]Actually a 1/3 of people would rather give their tax cuts to the health system than receive them directly. QUOTE] Who counted the one third??? I havent been asked. If your going off a poll then that figure is wrong. uh, as it stand on this poll, a third do infact want the money spent on health - so perhaps a poll with a larger sample size would also reflect a similar number, obviously they can't ask everyone about everything... although i reckon for alot of things they should this is what elections are for just because you disagree doesn't mean others don't and i heard on the news that while labour is offering $15 (despite in all the past years saying there was no way they could do it), national reckons they can give $45:lol: (and they have been offering it every year)	motorbyclist (188)
622491	2007-12-21 00:45:00	You may get some more money, but that money will then need to be spent on higher mortgage payments . That is just ridiculous ! In most countries round the world they get tax cuts and have lower interest rates than us . It is just our Reserve Bank act and Michael Cullen that say that . Regards Digby	Digby (677)
622492	2007-12-21 01:25:00	That is just ridiculous ! In most countries round the world they get tax cuts and have lower interest rates than us . It is just our Reserve Bank act and Michael Cullen that say that . Regards Digby You are correct that both the Reserve bank governor and our finance minister say that . So are you saying they are wrong . They are both paid hundreds of thousands of dollars by us for those opinions, and it isn't just them who are making those points . People in finance would also back that up . It is partly because we import far more than we export, which is a major problem for NZ . Until we export more than we import, we are going to continue to have this problem . Essentially the government can't spend much more on both health and education, as it will also push up inflation, and raise interest rates . It is all about balance . I think inflation is one of the major problems NZ is going to face in the next few years . House inflation has been out of control over the last few years, and overall inflation will folllow .	robbyp (2751)
622493	2007-12-21 01:26:00	[QUOTE=robbyp;626767]Actually a 1/3 of people would rather give their tax cuts to the health system than receive them directly. QUOTE] Who counted the one third??? I havent been asked. If your going off a poll then that figure is wrong. I was replying to a previous post, where they referred to the poll, saying that only 3 people supported giving the money to health.	robbyp (2751)
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