Forum Home
PC World Chat
Thread ID: 85695	2007-12-18 23:21:00	Just Who The Hell Do You Think You Are? God?	Roscoe (6288)	PC World Chat

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
622704	2007-12-19 02:12:00	Well, I could save all that money, and, I could offer an absolute guarantee that none would re-offend. ;) But could you offer an absolute guarantee that every person under your solution would turn out to be guilty of the crime they were convicted for? Personally, I have no moral objection to the death penalty. There are some crimes for which justice seems to call for the guilty party to have their life forfeited. But is even one innocent life a fair trade? The justice system cannot guarantee 100% certainty of guilt in convictions and unless it can, I don't see how a society can support the death penalty. If you enact a death penalty knowing there is a 2% chance of an innocent being killed, and you choose to accept that - what does that says about the morals of your society? Sorry, but your death was an acceptable risk? Yes, we spend our taxes on keeping scum in 3 meals a day and a clean bed. But we don't do that because we as a society feel they deserve it. We do it because we need to ensure our society is better than those who choose to live outside it's laws, both legal and moral. Otherwise, what's the point?	Biggles (121)
622705	2007-12-19 02:19:00	The point I was making is, judge people if you will, but what gives you the right to deal out what you think is a just punishment? You DO NOT have that right whatever you think of those people. If that's how you think, then may I ask two questions? Are you just going to let the criminal go, most possibly let him/her free to do their cruel biddings endlessly? Will you let them do their crime, with no threat of dire consequences? Children are taught, for every deeds, good or bad, there will be according consequences. Are we abiding this lesson when we do not hand out punishments to deserving people? Play with fire and you get burned, taunt a wild animal and it will kill you. That's how the world should be. You rob a kid of his/her innocence, then you should get the equally damaging treatment. You kill an innocent elderly, then you should grow old behind bars. Unfortunately in NZ however, you do any of the above crime, and you'll only get slaps on the wrist.	qazwsxokmijn (102)
622706	2007-12-19 02:58:00	What gives you the right to judge, and when you have rightly or wrongly, judged them, to deal out their punishment? Because they, by their actions, have absolved themselves of the right to be judged by society, by virtue of the fact they imposed themselves into MY life, by harming MY children, they have therefore chosen to be judged by MY rules. We are not talking shoplifters and jaywalkers here are we?. More "emotional rhetoric"....but if you start a thread with that as a discussion point, then live with it.	allblack (6574)
622707	2007-12-19 05:15:00	I dare say that the hatred that prison inmates feel toward child molesters is based upon many prison inmates having been molested as children themselves.	Deane F (8204)
622708	2007-12-19 05:51:00	I have been to prison for 9 months, I feel I could say I know some of the ins and outs of prison life, meet some nice people actually, am still friends with some of them today, Also while I was in there made good friends with a double murderer, now this guy, killed somebody with an axe and blew another guy away with a shotgun- because he narked on him.- Good person to have as a friend on the inside I can tell you. Murder’s a re fairly respected but it depends on who they kill, an example If you murdered a defenceless old man, little old lady or killed a teenage girl – not as much respect there. No respect for rapists either. Pedos are clearly disliked, it they weren't put in their own unit, they would probably end up beaten to death, which would cause a lot of problems for the prison staff, so for everyone’s sake, they are separated. Roscoe, you seem to have no understanding of how prison works, you could preach all you want to the inmates on your thoughts of nil judgement of others, but not only would you be wasting your breath, but they would probably put you in AE for 6 weeks for even suggesting it to them. But my point is you don’t understand what everyone is saying Roscoe, you are trying to employ morals into inmates who really don't have them. The end. Just Who The Hell Do You Think You Are? God? Sorry don't believe in any such omnipresent creator.	radium (8645)
622709	2007-12-19 06:54:00	But is even one innocent life a fair trade? The justice system cannot guarantee 100% certainty of guilt in convictions and unless it can, I don't see how a society can support the death penalty. If you enact a death penalty knowing there is a 2% chance of an innocent being killed, and you choose to accept that - what does that says about the morals of your society? Sorry, but your death was an acceptable risk? How many people getting killed on our roads would compel you to give up the convenience of owning a car? Couple hundred deaths a year an acceptable compromise?	Metla (12)
622710	2007-12-19 06:56:00	I dare say that the hatred that prison inmates feel toward child molesters is based upon many prison inmates having been molested as children themselves. I dare say that giving the bash to a pedo inside gets them some respect (granted, Its a twisted micro-world) and has next to nothing to do with anything else.	Metla (12)
622711	2007-12-19 07:18:00	If that's how you think, then may I ask two questions? Are you just going to let the criminal go, most possibly let him/her free to do their cruel biddings endlessly? Will you let them do their crime, with no threat of dire consequences? Children are taught, for every deeds, good or bad, there will be according consequences. Are we abiding this lesson when we do not hand out punishments to deserving people? Play with fire and you get burned, taunt a wild animal and it will kill you. That's how the world should be. You rob a kid of his/her innocence, then you should get the equally damaging treatment. You kill an innocent elderly, then you should grow old behind bars. Unfortunately in NZ however, you do any of the above crime, and you'll only get slaps on the wrist. You still are not addressing the original question and I'm obviously wasting my time trying to make my point as the majority of you think this is a question about kiddy fiddlers and what you, or the courts, might do to them. The above quote has merit but is completely missing the point. The only person that has read and understood the question, and seems to be a voice in the wilderness, is Bruce (thank you for that) and the second post by Plod. All the rest of you seem to think that it is a thread on kiddy fiddlers and what you would love to do with them. Nobody has thought the gaol definition of KFC even slightly amusing, it seems. I suppose the emotional self-righteous claptrap was to be expected. Oh well, so much for sensible unemotional discussion. We might as well close this thread as the people who have an intelligent opinion are definitely in the minority.	Roscoe (6288)
622712	2007-12-19 07:18:00	Justice is mine sayeth the Lord - An eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth - And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know I am the Lord when I lay my vengeance upon you. Who's not to say God didnt direct these inmates to pummel on these pedo's. God works in mysterious ways.	sam m (517)
622713	2007-12-19 07:28:00	You still are not addressing the original question and I'm obviously wasting my time trying to make my point as the majority of you think this is a question about kiddy fiddlers and what you, or the courts, might do to them. The above quote has merit but is completely missing the point. The only person that has read and understood the question, and seems to be a voice in the wilderness, is Bruce (thank you for that) and the second post by Plod. All the rest of you seem to think that it is a thread on kiddy fiddlers and what you would love to do with them. Nobody has thought the gaol definition of KFC even slightly amusing, it seems. I suppose the emotional self-righteous claptrap was to be expected. Oh well, so much for sensible unemotional discussion. We might as well close this thread as the people who have an intelligent opinion are definitely in the minority. The point I was making is, judge people if you will, but what gives you the right to deal out what you think is a just punishment? You DO NOT have that right whatever you think of those people. I made my post based on your above quote.	qazwsxokmijn (102)
1 2 3 4 5 6 7