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781280 2009-06-11 08:59:00 Are you talking crash, freeze or BSOD. If the later, it is 99% is hardware drivers or memory. To resolve video driver, just use the standard VGA driver for now and see if it's still unstable....
4Gb of RAM, is that 4 x 1 or 2 x 2 sticks?....even with a generic 450psu, you should be using anywhere near the max of that PSU.
I reckon its your RAM, start remove sticks and increase as your system proves stablilty

Ok, further info that may help.
Originally I had G.Skill DDRII 2GB PC2-6400 Cl5-5-5-15 by two.
Now I have Corsair Twin2X4096 6400C5 CL5-5-5-18 2 by 2GB modules = 4GB.

Nothing is overclocked. std speeds.

PSU is Thermal Master 420W.

I've also removed the auto restart check so I might get a BSOD the next time it crashes/reboots.
han308 (7457)
781281 2009-06-11 09:14:00 Well, now of those are on the memory QVL, however that doesnt mean the RAM isnt supported.

The yellow slots are recommended for 2 sticks, however you could try the orange slots to be sure its not the board.
Other than that, I would 1st try the old 2 x 1GB RAM stick, you wont notice much difference.
SolMiester (139)
781282 2009-06-15 00:36:00 Are you talking crash, freeze or BSOD. If the later, it is 99% is hardware drivers or memory. To resolve video driver, just use the standard VGA driver for now and see if it's still unstable....
4Gb of RAM, is that 4 x 1 or 2 x 2 sticks?....even with a generic 450psu, you should be using anywhere near the max of that PSU.
I reckon its your RAM, start remove sticks and increase as your system proves stablilty

I'm talking reboots. No error messages at all.

OK, i've updated to the latest BIOS and cleared the CMOS as advised by gigabyte. No help.
I've tried running with just one RAM module, 2GB, still crashes.
Tired, the other RAM slots, no help.
Tired increasing the voltage to the Ram, one step. No help.

I have run a stress test on the system and it doesnt tend to fail under stress. Usually when i doing something simple.,Open an app, play a video, just checking thru folders and settings...

Is there another memory/ram test I should try?

Next step, a total clean reinstall of Vista?
han308 (7457)
781283 2009-06-15 01:18:00 Do you have the older memory?, did you try with both new sticks separately? SolMiester (139)
781284 2009-06-15 02:30:00 hmmm, no.
I'll try each ram stick seperately.
I have 2 cosair 2Gb Twin2X4096 6400C5 CL5-5-5-18
and 1 G.skill 6400C5 2Gb module.

You think i should memtest each stick? Or is there a better test software?
han308 (7457)
781285 2009-06-15 02:46:00 Ok, so you have a single 2gb g-skill, try that in both slots, then try separately each of the other 2 2gb sticks. The idea is to isolate a RAM module instability or a slot instability!

Edit - Do you have cpu-z?, use this to take note of the RAM speed and voltage to confirm against manufacturers web-site. Some boards dont set correct settings when on Áuto'

You might want to check your system failure settings to see if there is a device error on the reboot (BSOD)
SolMiester (139)
781286 2009-06-15 09:51:00 Try repairing the OS using the Windows Vista home premium disk and see if that works.Then try booting Ubuntu to modify the HDD, allthough it may not work.Good luck. TechProX (14940)
781287 2009-06-15 10:04:00 Google for some O/C system checks they usually help find were the system is unstable, apart from that i would recommend a PSU upgrade to a well recognized 500-800w PSU, although possibly not essential it will make sure everything runs well even if you upgrade in future... ZapperBoy10647 (11988)
781288 2009-06-19 00:54:00 Ok, so you have a single 2gb g-skill, try that in both slots, then try separately each of the other 2 2gb sticks. The idea is to isolate a RAM module instability or a slot instability!

Edit - Do you have cpu-z?, use this to take note of the RAM speed and voltage to confirm against manufacturers web-site. Some boards dont set correct settings when on Áuto'

You might want to check your system failure settings to see if there is a device error on the reboot (BSOD)

Hi again.
I tried complete range of combinations with ram modules and slots. And could not get a consistence result, or fail. Each module, in each slot separetely. And I'm sure if i went and did it again, i would get totally different results.
I also tried manually setting the RAM timing. no noticable improvement.

I think I dont get any BSOD because the OS is not halting the system or detecting the failure. I think it must be hardware which is why i never get an error message. It simply reboots.

I have also tested both modules with 3 different test boot cds. Memtest86+, mem scope and windows mem test. No errors, ran for hours...

hmmm?
www.ascent.co.nz
new PSU?

new MB?
han308 (7457)
781289 2009-06-19 09:08:00 www.playtech.co.nz

or

www.playtech.co.nz

Are good, although more expensive they will last, also ive heard some bad rep about raidmax psu's
ZapperBoy10647 (11988)
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