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Thread ID: 85798	2007-12-22 06:25:00	Radar Detectors may be banned	radium (8645)	PC World Chat

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624009	2007-12-24 12:26:00	On an auto car, take the foot off the accel so the brake lights won't even need to be on and the speed reduction is v gradual :D If they tailgate me, I flip the rear view mirror up, my personality switches, I drop my speed down to 40 even down to 35 and around 25 near pedestrian crossing, to piss them off :lol: What they gonna do smack into me, a 1992 1.3L car good luck. i have seen that happen - never underestimate the angry driver in a crappy car or ute with bullbars bikers even have to contend with vehicular assault by drivers who disagree with bikes lanesplitting at intersections:groan: now while further antagonising a tailgater seems a bad idea in my mind, if i'm following a tailgater i just flip the headlights onto high beam... the driver usually backs off at that point but if you're unreasonably slow and creating a queue of traffic behind you pull over for for christ's sake! omg it can be so frustrating sitting behind a driver doing 40 in a 50 or 50 in a 70! you may find it amusing, but stressing other drivers, some of which have a disregard for both safety and vehicle damage, is a very bad idea. especially when they then try to pass in a dangerous fashion. always amuses me seeing the tailgators tailgating people who are already speeding though, and the ones who do all sorts of stunts for a few car lengths - it's like they think it's a race or something	motorbyclist (188)
624010	2007-12-24 12:37:00	Actually you are not Gods gift to mankind. I got a ticket recently and because of it had my speed o checked on a dyno and it was 14km/h over at 100km/h. Knowing that now I am very surprised that I have not had a hell of a lot more tickets. slight problem with that though; if your speedo is out, having a radar detector to tell you to get back under the limit will not help as you'll still be out by judging your speed from the speedo. and once you know that your speedo is 14% out you should still be able to keep within 10kph of the limit a very accurate way to gauge your speed is to use a gps unit, other than that even a tyre change can make a difference to the car speedometer me and some biker friends went out and read our speeds while one was holding 100kph - we had a range of 18kph between the 5 of us:(	motorbyclist (188)
624011	2007-12-24 13:06:00	but if you're unreasonably slow and creating a queue of traffic behind you pull over for for christ's sake! omg it can be so frustrating sitting behind a driver doing 40 in a 50 or 50 in a 70! Traveling between Carterton and Masterton 6 times recently I have ended behind someone doing 60km/h in a 100km/h zone 3 times. One trucker I knew said it was the worst road in NZ for that type of thing.	mikebartnz (21)
624012	2007-12-24 13:34:00	Traveling between Carterton and Masterton 6 times recently I have ended behind someone doing 60km/h in a 100km/h zone 3 times. One trucker I knew said it was the worst road in NZ for that type of thing. see, now in the case of the trucker, that is actually costing him money and possibly making him late for a delivery drive me nuts when people drive REALLY slow without pulling over especially when they speed up for passing lanes:yuck:	motorbyclist (188)
624013	2007-12-24 13:34:00	a very accurate way to gauge your speed is to use a gps unit, other than that even a tyre change can make a difference to the car speedometer I am not too sure as to how accurate they actually are but I know they wouldn't be "very accurate". A lot depends on the model you have. It has definitely improved since the Yanks have restricted it less.	mikebartnz (21)
624014	2007-12-24 19:46:00	I am not too sure as to how accurate they actually are but I know they wouldn't be "very accurate". A lot depends on the model you have. It has definitely improved since the Yanks have restricted it less. I agree with that I borred the one from work when I went to Auckland was a Navman 40i I think, and it told me I was doing like 95 when my car said I was doing 110, Now I know I was doing over a 100. The gps only updates every few seconds also, so it doesn't give you a constant speed. - I have found	radium (8645)
624015	2007-12-24 20:25:00	drive me nuts when people drive REALLY slow without pulling over especially when they speed up for passing lanes:yuck: Well half the problem is that there often isn't anywhere for them to pull over safely. Most of the time you can only reasonably expect them to keep left so following traffic can have a clear view of the road ahead to judge a safe overtaking spot. You can't expect them to pull over enough to create an extra lane. Sure - there might be alot of idiots out there piddling along without a care in the world about those following behind (and many a time they are completely oblivious to traffic behind). But there are many legitimate reasons for slower traffic and I'm afraid we just all have to learn to share the road. Alot of people just need to learn to be a bit more patient. It really doesn't make a lot of difference to your journey time if you get stuck doing 70k in a 100k zone for a few minutes. I shudder at the number of desperately dangerous overtaking maneuvers I see - all to get past a car doing the limit or 5k under. And then what happens. You either catch the idiot up at the next intersection or they end up turning off, stopping or getting stuck behind the next slower vehicle. No time is saved at all. The only thing that does nark me about slower vehicles is when there's a convoy of them (2 or more trucks, for example) and they all following too close to each other, effectively making it impossible to pass one of them at a time. But then most people seem to like driving up each other's ass in New Zealand so that's nothing unusual. see, now in the case of the trucker, that is actually costing him money and possibly making him late for a delivery Unless he's driving at a speed that's no good in terms of fuel economy then I fail to see how that's costing money. Getting 'stuck' behind slower traffic should be factored into the journey time. It's not exactly an unforeseen gridlock situation.	legod (4626)
624016	2007-12-24 21:04:00	If you measure your average speed over an open road, it will be nowhere near the 100kph limit. I'd be surprised if the average gets over 90 (provided you stay within the limit) so you have to factor in delays for the inevitable slow driver, the road works, the morons etc.	andrew93 (249)
624017	2007-12-25 01:12:00	Well half the problem is that there often isn't anywhere for them to pull over safely. Most of the time you can only reasonably expect them to keep left so following traffic can have a clear view of the road ahead to judge a safe overtaking spot. You can't expect them to pull over enough to create an extra lane. Sure - there might be alot of idiots out there piddling along without a care in the world about those following behind (and many a time they are completely oblivious to traffic behind). But there are many legitimate reasons for slower traffic and I'm afraid we just all have to learn to share the road. Alot of people just need to learn to be a bit more patient. It really doesn't make a lot of difference to your journey time if you get stuck doing 70k in a 100k zone for a few minutes. I shudder at the number of desperately dangerous overtaking maneuvers I see - all to get past a car doing the limit or 5k under. And then what happens. You either catch the idiot up at the next intersection or they end up turning off, stopping or getting stuck behind the next slower vehicle. No time is saved at all. The only thing that does nark me about slower vehicles is when there's a convoy of them (2 or more trucks, for example) and they all following too close to each other, effectively making it impossible to pass one of them at a time. But then most people seem to like driving up each other's ass in New Zealand so that's nothing unusual. Unless he's driving at a speed that's no good in terms of fuel economy then I fail to see how that's costing money. Getting 'stuck' behind slower traffic should be factored into the journey time. It's not exactly an unforeseen gridlock situation. you're absolutely right there, and as such my issue is with the people who don't pull over when the opportunity presents itself - and again it comes back to keeping as left as possible (for a biker this is a particular issue because we don't need a vehicle to move much to allow us to pass, but if there's enough room on their left side to pass i've seen some guys go for it:groan: - and even traffic queues that insist on hugging the centre either forcing a lanesplitting biker to go into oncoming traffic or pass on the left:() but it's the longer trips where that 20kph (think of it as 20%, or 12 minutes lost per hour) matters and also where you typically encounter the horse trailer which cannot go faster but could atleast use that rest area to pull over! of course in a city or on a short trip it isn't of much consequence, but it's the long trips where is matters and sure a trucker should expect traffic, but if those one or two drivers would pull over he could save himself an hour on a long haul trip - an hour that ould otherwise be spent resting, relaxing, at home with his estranged family or of course working some more	motorbyclist (188)
624018	2007-12-25 02:05:00	but if those one or two drivers would pull over he could save himself an hour on a long haul trip - an hour that would otherwise be spent resting, relaxing, at home with his estranged family or of course working some more I think an hour is an exaggeration. Roadworks or heavy traffic is a more likely reason for 'lateness'. I frequently do the Auckland-Wellington route and find slower vehicles really don't make alot of difference to average journey time over a long distance. Like I said - I see the impatient ones clambering all over the back of vehicles to get past, only to end up catching them up or passing them at the next town/intersection/mobile chicane. Trouble is, once people start thinking like that they get agitated and either take risks to get past or they don't take rest breaks. I know I'd rather get to my destination a bit later than expected in a relaxed mode instead of on time and stressed out....or not at all.	legod (4626)
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