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Thread ID: 86075	2008-01-02 23:17:00	Prison must be hard alright....	rob_on_guitar (4196)	PC World Chat

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626826	2008-01-03 18:25:00	I say no mobiles, no tv, no pcs, no radios in their rooms. Good books only and piped music (nice soft music) No drugs (they let them in to keep them calm) One movie a night - Bambi, Sound Of Music, (good wholesome movies only) PC access in a communal room - no internet access - Word, Photoshop, Programming languages only so they can learn. I say that after one third of their sentence under these conditions they can go for training. And must learn English properly, poetry, dance, etiquette etc. If they reach a certain standard in the above THEN they can have a tv in their room. But no videos etc. And I say they cannot be let out till they have a job lined up, with a place to live. And the same applies to ALL prisoners, not just violent ones. Prison is supposed to be a PUNISHMENT and deterrent (and also to keep them out of society). Regards Digby.	Digby (677)
626827	2008-01-03 19:57:00	Strange that. I was once a young fellow. Very young. But even before I reached double figures I did at least know how to spell and took pride in it. When I didn't know how to spell something I used the dictionary - a lot - and took pride in my efforts. Try harder - garbage is garbage no matter what excuses are made. Tom Steady Thomas, dont be a stick in the mud.	rob_on_guitar (4196)
626828	2008-01-03 21:23:00	Steady Thomas, dont be a stick in the mud. If being a "stick in the mud" means that you have standards then I am quite content to remain "a stick in the mud". The appalling standards of so many things these days does worry me. As an example the poor audio we have to listen to on TV or at the films. It is sad that if I want to be able to hear every word in a film then I need to watch films made at least 40 year ago (I have 60% of normal hearing ability left now). The other day I watched on TV one of the latest, and I believe most respected stars, playing his latest recording. He thumped his guitar a lot and sang a lot. I could make out a few words of his song - that's all. Then I wondered through to my room and played a George Formby record. EVERY WORD WAS CLEAR AND DISTINCT. In addition George played his ukulele - could grief he practically made the thing sing along with him. Absolutely incredible. In addition he also introduced the humour he was so famous for. Tom (ASITM)	Thomas01 (317)
626829	2008-01-03 21:49:00	Your standards are yours. Fair enough, but no excuse to rubbish somebody. The guy just stated his bit, I thought yours was a bit ruff. Maybe Im the stick in the mud...hmmmm	rob_on_guitar (4196)
626830	2008-01-04 00:36:00	Your standards are yours. Fair enough, but no excuse to rubbish somebody. The guy just stated his bit, I thought yours was a bit ruff. Maybe Im the stick in the mud...hmmmm I didn't rubbish anybody. He did it himself. You have done the same. But that is your decision not mine. Ironic isn't it. Just about everybody in prison is in fact a volunteer and should stop complaining. Those who make no attempt to use correct English are in a similar boat. So don't complain if you get looked down on. Tom	Thomas01 (317)
626831	2008-01-04 00:47:00	So everyone must speak proper english? Hah! What a crock. Yup thats just my opinion, being looked down for not using english, I thought this was a forum not a conformist school lesson.	rob_on_guitar (4196)
626832	2008-01-04 01:04:00	I say no mobiles, no tv, no pcs, no radios in their rooms. Good books only and piped music (nice soft music) No drugs (they let them in to keep them calm) One movie a night - Bambi, Sound Of Music, (good wholesome movies only) PC access in a communal room - no internet access - Word, Photoshop, Programming languages only so they can learn. I say that after one third of their sentence under these conditions they can go for training. And must learn English properly, poetry, dance, etiquette etc. If they reach a certain standard in the above THEN they can have a tv in their room. But no videos etc. And I say they cannot be let out till they have a job lined up, with a place to live. And the same applies to ALL prisoners, not just violent ones. Prison is supposed to be a PUNISHMENT and deterrent (and also to keep them out of society). Regards Digby. The thing is, why should prisoners be allowed to keep up with current technology. I am pretty sure that prisoners in the US don't have all the perks that NZ prisoners have. I know that some prisoners actually enjoy prison so much that they struggle a lot on the outside and want to go back in after being released. It can be very hard for someone who has been inside to adapt back into the real world. These are the personality types that need routine, and would have probably been best to go into the army when they were young. My mother works in one of NZs main prisons so I know a little bit about what goes on.	robbyp (2751)
626833	2008-01-04 01:39:00	Prison in American by an Englishman, he just got out 2 weeks ago and is now back in England: jonsjailjournal.blogspot.com	zqwerty (97)
626834	2008-01-04 01:42:00	Prison in American by an Englishman, he just got out 2 weeks ago and is now back in England: jonsjailjournal.blogspot.com He got let out an hour each day? Soft!:p	rob_on_guitar (4196)
626835	2008-01-04 08:11:00	You go to Prison as punishment not to be punished! that's stated in The Law or NZ Prison. I tell you, it's not a place that's nice to be and it's hard not to hold resentment for the system and make people want to continue to offend. Just to say F*@k you If I had been given harsh treatment in Prison, I would have had no will give up Making Meth, Hey I loved doing it, and the more I felt f*@ked off at the system the the more I wanted to get back out there and do it. I wanted to change my ways, but every time they kick you, it makes you want to continue offending. But you see, I was shown some understanding in Prison, and I and it gives you will to change and not want to go back. It really does. You are all armchair critics, who unless you have been there really don't know what it's like, and shouldn’t be so quick to judge. I bet if you experienced it, you would change your views. I too remember being shocked at the fact Prisoners were even allowed to watch TV when I was younger. But I tell you if I didn't have a TV and have been shown some understanding I would have had a lot of time to build up resentment, and I would be still cooking today. I didn’t sit there and watch TV all day, I was running the Laundry, which was a huge task, and I watched my TV at night. The biggest punishment is not being able to be with friends and family. No matter how long you are there those walls don’t grow on you.	radium (8645)
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