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Thread ID: 86284	2008-01-10 23:22:00	Edmund Hillary 1919 - 2008	bob_doe_nz (92)	PC World Chat

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629364	2008-01-12 06:45:00	I wish I knew that was on - it sounds interesting. Hopefully they will repeat it soon. Go to TVNZ On Demand they are there to view and maybe to download also. tvnzondemand.co.nz :)	Trev (427)
629365	2008-01-12 08:04:00	I lived in India from 82~85. And the two people that almost everyone mentioned when they found out I was a NZer were Richard Hadlee and Sir Edmund. The former because they are cricket mad and RH was at his best, and Sir Ed because they respected and loved him for all he had done, no matter where it was. No matter what your views, it is sad people in this country cannot have the respect, manners and brains to understand what this man means to most New Zealanders.	Grimy (3041)
629366	2008-01-13 05:44:00	Honi soit qui mal y pense - Shame on him who thinks evil of it . I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned that . Very few British or Commonwealth people are given that honour . :thumbs: Sir Ed did state that he didn't want a statue made of himself as a memorial, but what sort of memorial should be made in his name? Perhaps rename Auckland Airport, so most people coming into NZ is welcomed by his name . When tourists arrive or depart Auckland Airport, the name they see is that of another famous NZer, Rotorua born Jean Batten . Jean Batten was one of the great aviation megastars of the 1930s and is honoured along with her plane, the Percival Gull . You might have seen it hanging from the ceiling . I think that a few people may be upset if it was decided to upstage her with Sir Ed – great though he was .	Roscoe (6288)
629367	2008-01-13 05:49:00	Her name has already been dropped. Or so it has been said.	Metla (12)
629368	2008-01-13 09:43:00	I might go see him when he's over at the cathedral as a sign of respect later this week. :dogeye:	bob_doe_nz (92)
629369	2008-01-14 08:26:00	I might go see him when he's over at the cathedral as a sign of respect later this week. :dogeye: Does anyone know if it is going to be an open or closed casket. I think it will be closed, unlike the pope who had an open casket.	robbyp (2751)
629370	2008-01-14 09:29:00	Honi soit qui mal y pense - Shame on him who thinks evil of it. I'm surprised that no-one has mentioned that. Very few British or Commonwealth people are given that honour.:thumbs: When tourists arrive or depart Auckland Airport, the name they see is that of another famous NZer, Rotorua born Jean Batten. Jean Batten was one of the great aviation megastars of the 1930s and is honoured along with her plane, the Percival Gull. You might have seen it hanging from the ceiling. I think that a few people may be upset if it was decided to upstage her with Sir Ed – great though he was. For Sir Edmund Hillary I would like to mention another Latin phrase. "Forte Fortuna Juvat" Fortune favours the brave. Also the motto of the RF Cadet school of which I was at in 1960. Personally I would not like to replace Jean Batten with Sir Edmund Hillary for Auckland Airport. Sir Ed was a good person. A fitting memorial might be a cairn on Mt Cook. Jean Batten flew and he climbed.	Sweep (90)
629371	2008-01-14 09:50:00	Honi soit qui mal y pense - Shame on him who thinks evil of it. It's not Latin, it is French. Have a look at the photo of Sir Ed and Margaret Thatcher taken after they were made companions of the Order of The Garter in 1995 (Weekend Herald page 2 and other publications). You will see an insignia on their left shoulder of the cloaks they are wearing with the words, Honi soit qui mal y pense surrounding the cross - the motto of the Order of The Garter.	Roscoe (6288)
629372	2008-01-14 10:03:00	I had the privilege of meeting Sir Edmund on several occasions, both through the New Zealand Alpine Club, and through the Royal New Zealand Air Force where we regularly showed active support for his Himalayan trust by moving freight from NZ through Singapore to Nepal on a space available basis - ie space was always found and made available. He was actively assisted by another great Kiwi, who was less well known, Dr Max Pearl, who did wonderful work for the Himalayan Trust and the hospitals that were built to help the Sherpas, and Max was the main scrounger of RNZAF airfreight space. Dr Max Pearl was a close family friend of ours, and it was through him that I first met Ed Hillary and his first wife Louise . One story that Ed told at his expense related to a flight he made from Chicago back to NZ through Honolulu, when he was consulting to Sears Roebuck. He booked and paid for a flight through an American travel Agent, and when he arrived at Chicago O'Hare he was greeted with we have been waiting for you, and he was ushered to join a group of dignitaries that included the Governor's of Illinois and Hawaii, and the Mayors of Chicago and Honolulu and the president of the Airline - he had been booked on the inaugural flight from Chicago to Honolulu of the particular airline (I think it may have been American) - there were a number of speeches made by the dignitaries, and Ed was asked to speak, which he did. They boarded the aircraft and after technical delays, which were glossed over with copious quantities of Airline Champers they finally took off. Ed said that on reflection he thought he was probably the only person an the Flight that had actually paid for a ticket. Sir Edmund had a long and fruitful life, and quietly modest about his lifetime of achievements, and we can give thanks for this great man's contribution not only to New Zealand and Nepal but to the world. New Zealand is much the poorer for his passing, and in todays self centred selfish society it is unlikely we will produce another of his stature. A measure of the International regard that Sir Edmund Hillary is held, can be gauged by the editorial and other two major articles that were written on him in last Saturdays Weekend Australian, plus a 1 hour tribute to him on Sunday evening Channel 9. Not many New Zealanders rate this sort of accolade in Australia.	KenESmith (6287)
629373	2008-01-14 21:34:00	Does anyone know if it is going to be an open or closed casket. I think it will be closed, unlike the pope who had an open casket. From here (www.nzherald.co.nz) Sir Ed's body will lie in state at the Holy Trinity Cathedral for 24 hours before the funeral, giving people the opportunity to say their personal goodbyes.	Speedy Gonzales (78)
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