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| Thread ID: 144374 | 2017-09-26 01:30:00 | It's Getting Serious! | B.M. (505) | PC World Chat |
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| 1439796 | 2017-10-03 21:43:00 | Well I must say that I’m surprised that "Common Sense" is no longer a requirement of Science. However, on reflection, it does show and especially in the Church of Climatology. :groan: Your post is bordering on satirical, it is so laughably bad. Just because you or your mates think something intuitively makes sense does not make it true. Science deals with evidence and facts, it does not assume something to be true because 'it's common sense'. Luckily for all of us, actual scientists and engineers rely on more than just your 'common sense'. Bill English said you can't go shopping with values - you also can't design an airplane with 'common sense' and can't perform surgery with it either. It takes brains, skills, education, technology, and science - none of which you seem to have in abundance. |
Nick G (16709) | ||
| 1439797 | 2017-10-03 21:46:00 | I don't understand what all the argument is about. It's not as if this hasn't happened before. I visited the Franz Josef and Fox Glaciers a few years back and they have photographs showing the advance and retreat of the glaciers over the years. Some years the glaciers were not visible at all and all the rocks were exposed. Other years the glaciers were right up to - and in some cases past - the viewing platform. And no one was talking about climate change or global warming in those days. It seems that the warming and cooling of the earth is something that happens on a regular basis and is nothing to be worried about. |
Roscoe (6288) | ||
| 1439798 | 2017-10-03 21:48:00 | www.ucsusa.org And yes, there is a general scientific consensus. |
Nick G (16709) | ||
| 1439799 | 2017-10-03 21:53:00 | Could I impose upon you to explain the difference please or direct me to your previous post you refer to? That was a thought starting question ( yeah for a Wednesday - I know ) :) Anyhows -- If you google "whats the difference between Global Warming and Climate Change" theres plenty of hits as expected. All basically say the same thing, so it can be even more or less confusing depending on how a person wishes to view it. One opening Comment in one of the first few articles, makes total sense ;) Depending on who is talking, there can be an enormous difference between global warming and climate change — or no difference at all. Going back to the title of this thread: If the mad men in USA and NK start throwing Nukes about, there will certainly be some changes, and all the care in the world wont be any use at all. |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1439800 | 2017-10-04 22:32:00 | You are absolutely right Wainui . Seeing nobody here could clarify the difference I thought I’d Google it too and got page after page contradictory interpretations . As you posted “Depending on who is talking, there can be an enormous difference between global warming and climate change — or no difference at all” . Unfortunately, Google doesn’t seem to be able to put items in chronological order so it takes a bit of sorting out . However, I thought this whole farce started with the Kyoto Protocol of 1997, but it turns out that the Kyoto Protocol was an extension of the 1992 "United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change", so I guess the study was going on well before that . Now if we look at the “Facts” different factions over the years agree on nothing and of course some eminent Climatologists have actually predicted we are entering another Ice Age . But then I found another classic . Apparently, there have been Spin Doctors from prominent Advertising Company’s involved along the way . :eek: Yes, it seems swapping from “Global Warming” to “Climate Change” after Climategate was the work of a prominent Add Company . There wasn’t any Global Warming and it was becoming a Hard Sell, so, it was Re-branded to Climate Change, because nobody could argue the climate wasn’t changing in one way or another . But wait, there’s more, the French Connections Advertising Company disagreed and said Climate Change didn’t have the “Fear Factor” and “Climate Disruption” would be better . Well I now remember both terms being used for a while but Climate Disruption seems to have died of natural causes . Meanwhile, for the last thirty years at least, Mother Earth has plodded along completely oblivious to all the scaremongering . Frankly, I don’t care about what others believe, but I do object to our country wasting $1 . 4 Billion overseas per year on the matter . There are far better things to spend the money on! ;) |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1439801 | 2017-10-04 23:25:00 | While having lunch, 12.15 -- There's a interesting program on at the moment about this exact thing, (history channel) Its all about the warming of the earth over all. (not just a hot or cold day-Month) they claim all it takes is 2 Degrees Celsius increase and its showing what would happen. As they mentioned some parts of the world its happening already ( massive flooding etc) The real problem is not the heat increase but infection from bugs like mosquitoes which carry diseases. They love the warmer weather, (proven by they are more about in Summer). Add in pollution getting into drinking water etc. --- its quite interesting / frighting really. Mother nature is a b**ch :D |
wainuitech (129) | ||
| 1439802 | 2017-10-05 00:25:00 | Yes Wainui it’s all very dramatical. We had two 500 year floods in a couple of weeks not long ago thanks to Climate Change. :eek: One flooded Edgecumbe and they still haven’t cleaned up. Wait a minute, who was keeping records in New Zealand 500 years ago? And the collapse of a stop-bank on the river caused Edgecumbe to flood. Hmmm, I wonder why years ago they built a Stop-bank in the first place? And remember the Millennium and all the drama that the Media would have you believe was going to happen? Aeroplanes falling out of the sky, no food or water, sewerage flowing up hill and flooding bathrooms, no electricity because the North and South Poles were going to swap :confused:, the Y2K bug, and on and on it went. What happened? Nothing. It appears Mother Earth doesn’t work around the Gregorian Calendar. :D |
B.M. (505) | ||
| 1439803 | 2017-10-05 03:54:00 | ...Frankly, I don’t care about what others believe, .. Careful B.M , you don't win arguments if people think you have a closed mind. |
decibel (11645) | ||
| 1439804 | 2017-10-05 04:00:00 | ...And remember the Millennium and all the drama that the Media would have you believe was going to happen? Aeroplanes falling out of the sky, no food or water, sewerage flowing up hill and flooding bathrooms, no electricity because the North and South Poles were going to swap :confused:, the Y2K bug, and on and on it went. What happened? Nothing. It appears Mother Earth doesn’t work around the Gregorian Calendar. :D I hope you didn't listen to all that baloney but what really was in the pipeline for Y2K never happened because a lot of people sent a lot of time fixing all the real problems before 31/12/99. (and it was nothing to do with the Gregorian calendar.) |
decibel (11645) | ||
| 1439805 | 2017-10-05 21:34:00 | www.ucsusa.org And yes, there is a general scientific consensus. a link pointing to an OBVIOUSLY biased group. its the usual all scientists agree claim, then most scientist agree claim, then the ..... Scientists, being human, are prone to the same biases and external pressures as the rest of us. Just look at the history of science to see how reluctant scientists can be to consider theories that go against the norm. |
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