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Thread ID: 144378 2017-09-26 22:39:00 Winston Peters bk T (215) PC World Chat
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1439866 2017-09-27 06:47:00 "I was a civilian officer, paid by the military but I had no rank. I was a lecturer." (Jian Yang)

Let's keep McCarthyism where it belongs. Which is anywhere but rearing it's head in this country.
WalOne (4202)
1439867 2017-09-27 06:57:00 Who Winston will go with is anyone’s guess, but he’s a Maori Boy and knows all about Utu on one hand, but Comrade Winston doesn’t quite fit on the other. ;)

One would normally think that going with National is logical, but given the bad blood between him and some of the National Caucus it could be payback time?

Also, he has previously worked effectively with the Labour Government so interesting times ahead. :)
B.M. (505)
1439868 2017-09-27 08:05:00 Well it is a whole lot better than first past the post.
I preferred STV and voted for that at the time.

i would agree with you on STV, it works well for the Australian Senate, but I would commend the Hare Clarke system of Preferential Voting used for the Australian House of representatives - it produces a certain outcome to elections, and the Government and MPs elected using that system do have a majority mandate.

The feature I find objectionable about NZ's MMP system, is that sitting electorate members get two bites of the cherry, get dumped by the voters in the electorate, and then sneak back in through the back door on the party list vote. Sitting electorate members should have to opt to stand for their electorate, or go on the party list - they shouldn't get two bites of the electoral cherry.
KenESmith (6287)
1439869 2017-09-27 08:21:00 "I was a civilian officer, paid by the military but I had no rank. I was a lecturer." (Jian Yang)

Let's keep McCarthyism where it belongs. Which is anywhere but rearing it's head in this country.

'No rank' doesn't mean he was not a member of the communist party.
bk T (215)
1439870 2017-09-27 08:27:00 I doubt south Auckland would vote National Prefect, let's face it Nat's are more commie than Labour and have been for the last 3 terms at least gary67 (56)
1439871 2017-09-27 08:59:00 I doubt south Auckland would vote National Prefect, let's face it Nat's are more commie than Labour and have been for the last 3 terms at least Papakura overwhelmingly voted National, unfortunately. pcuser42 (130)
1439872 2017-09-27 19:08:00 Who Winston will go with is anyone’s guess,

he doesn't much like either main party.
He is waiting for the special votes, which is fair enough, it may make the problem irrelevant.

If it still comes out much the same, his being the decider, then he'll go with whoever agrees on his asks.

I'm with him actually - as he said to the news people - stop going on and on and wait till then.
pctek (84)
1439873 2017-09-27 22:20:00 I'm with him actually - as he said to the news people - stop going on and on and wait till then.

Absolutely, you can't play your cards until the dealings done and I don't understand why so many don't realise that. :confused:
B.M. (505)
1439874 2017-09-29 04:25:00 "and he's reaching his twilight years. National was where he started but booted him out later, then JK ignored him like a plague - and now Nat's have leaked his super payments, and campaigned him out of this electorate by advocating cutting out the middle man... "

Winston is well past his use by date, he was useless as a solicitor, he cost a friend of mine a small fortune because he was so busy chasing politics that he botched up his case.
He was not particularly effective as the National MP for Hunua,
Winston is all about Winston, much prefer his brother Jim who I first knew at University in the late 50s. Jim is a bloody good bloke.
Winston Peters is a cunning political opportunist and the amazing thing is that so many people have not seen through him and given him the heave ho from New Zealand First.
It will be interesting to see whether NZ First withers away and dies when Winston goes, or revitalises.
KenESmith (6287)
1439875 2017-09-29 08:21:00 Papakura overwhelmingly voted National, unfortunately.

Voting? Isn't that particular process more closely related to shearing?
;)
R2x1 (4628)
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