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Thread ID: 145355	2017-10-09 05:02:00	Well what is the consensus of what the new Government will look like?	B.M. (505)	PC World Chat

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1440374	2017-10-09 07:29:00	For what it’s worth, my contribution was that if I were Jacinda, I would go to Winston and tell him that I would have no problem with him being Prime Minister on the proviso he stepped down prior to the next election and either retired or swapped places. I would tell him I felt I was a bit young and inexperienced to be Prime Minister but would be happy to finish my apprenticeship under him. (figuratively speaking) ; You'd obviously been indulging yourself for a little while when you came up with this. It would be political suicide for Ardern, and Labour would be absolutely hammered at the next election. It won't happen. As an aside, she's been an MP since the 2008 election. While she hasn't been leader of Labour long, calling her inexperienced is absurd. As to age, I don't think jobs like that come with any age requirement - it's about ability.	Nick G (16709)
1440375	2017-10-09 08:22:00	I don't see the point of your post, we have an MMP system, electorates are barely relevant. The point of the post was that it could be the first time it might occur. Yes electorates are barely relevant these days but I doubt that most people understand that. However I don't actually like it myself that individuals can enter parliament without being individually elected, not that I'm against minorities having seats. ie I don't like MMP but I'm not sure if there is a better option.	Ofthesea (14129)
1440376	2017-10-09 09:17:00	"However I don't actually like it myself that individuals can enter parliament without being individually elected, not that I'm against minorities having seats" The thing that is objectionable with MMP is that a sitting electorate member can also be on the list, frequently high on the list, and if his/her electorate dumps the MP he/she is back in as a list MP. Sitting Electorate MPs should not have two bites at the cherry, ie at an election either stand as an electorate MP and pray their constituents love them enough to give them another go, or take their chances as a list MP - definitely not both.	KenESmith (6287)
1440377	2017-10-09 17:57:00	"However I don't actually like it myself that individuals can enter parliament without being individually elected, not that I'm against minorities having seats" The thing that is objectionable with MMP is that a sitting electorate member can also be on the list, frequently high on the list, and if his/her electorate dumps the MP he/she is back in as a list MP. Sitting Electorate MPs should not have two bites at the cherry, ie at an election either stand as an electorate MP and pray their constituents love them enough to give them another go, or take their chances as a list MP - definitely not both. That pretty well sums up my atitude to MMP. In addition list MPs are only loyal to their party and have little interest in those who vote.	CliveM (6007)
1440378	2017-10-09 18:49:00	I were Jacinda, I would go to Winston and tell him that I would have no problem with him being Prime Minister on the proviso he stepped down prior to the next election and either retired or swapped places. WTF? He didn't win. He may have the deciding vote but that sure doesn't make NZF the majority. He will get some of his policies through and that's it. How many and to what extent determines his choice.	pctek (84)
1440379	2017-10-09 19:04:00	You know for those short on memory and the overly dramatic, this has happened before: 1996 : National and NZ First 2005 : Labour and NZ First Son now it's 2017: X and NZ First	pctek (84)
1440380	2017-10-09 19:19:00	Best coalition: National + Laobour	bk T (215)
1440381	2017-10-09 19:45:00	My bet is that the new Gov't will look like a bunch of dorks, and will act accordingly (after raising parliamentary pensions of course). ;) And giving themselves a pay rise..	paulw (1826)
1440382	2017-10-09 19:55:00	I'd like to see a confidence and supply arrangement with National, fair to those other than the list MPs. It's a logical and rational solution. Both qualities some contributors to this thread sadly lack.	WalOne (4202)
1440383	2017-10-09 20:34:00	You'd obviously been indulging yourself for a little while when you came up with this . It would be political suicide for Ardern, and Labour would be absolutely hammered at the next election . It won't happen . As an aside, she's been an MP since the 2008 election . While she hasn't been leader of Labour long, calling her inexperienced is absurd . As to age, I don't think jobs like that come with any age requirement - it's about ability . Oh God, our absolute authority on everything is back . :rolleyes: You'd obviously been indulging yourself for a little while when you came up with this . It would be political suicide for Ardern, and Labour would be absolutely hammered at the next election . It won't happen . Ardern has quite a difficult hand to play and she won’t have to worry about what hand she has to play in three years time if she doesn’t get the one in front of her right . A lot will depend on how some of the cagey old buggers play theirs . As for getting hammered next election, that would depend entirely on what sort of performance they put up in the next three years . As an aside, she's been an MP since the 2008 election . While she hasn't been leader of Labour long, calling her inexperienced is absurd . As to age, I don't think jobs like that come with any age requirement - it's about ability . The apprenticeship in Politics is long and hard and Winston was battling it out a couple of years before she was even born . I remain unrepentant, and think she needs to Coattail someone, but isn’t exactly “spoilt with choice” . Anyway, as I said in the lead post, that’s what I’d be looking at if I were her, but do feel free to advise the correct method . :)	B.M. (505)
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