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| Thread ID: 145355 | 2017-10-09 05:02:00 | Well what is the consensus of what the new Government will look like? | B.M. (505) | PC World Chat |
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| 1440514 | 2017-10-23 06:27:00 | Er, you can't be ex English Gary. English is a race even if a bit of a conglomerate over the years. Born English always English. You can be ex British though. | Terry Porritt (14) | ||
| 1440515 | 2017-10-23 06:44:00 | Actually I am English not British as far as I'm concerned British would imply along with UK part Welsh, Scots and Cornish which I'm not Terry | gary67 (56) | ||
| 1440516 | 2017-10-23 19:03:00 | Er, you can't be ex English Gary. English is a race even if a bit of a conglomerate over the years. Born English always English. You can be ex British though. Historically, the English population is descended from several peoples — the earlier Celtic Britons and the Germanic tribes that settled in Britain following the withdrawal of the Romans, including Angles, Saxons, Jutes and Frisians, along with the later Danes, Normans and other groups. yep. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 1440517 | 2017-10-24 05:39:00 | "There are a few kiwis too, who having been in Aussie for a bit, had kids born there and then moved back here. The kids should then be evicted right?" The only difference is that the Australian Government does not accept them as Aussies, even if they are adults and never been ouit of the country in their lives, they are New Zealanders and as such, unless they apply and are accepted to be Australian Citizens (at a cost of over $A4000) they will never be Australian, they are not entitled to social welfare, they are not entitled to take advantage of a HECs loan for tertiary education, and they are not entitled to vote, and if they are convicted of an offence carrying a custodial sentence, they can be deported to New Zealand, notwithstanding that they have never lived in New Zealand, and even if they have no living family ties to New Zealand. Not only does it cost over $A4000 to go through the application process, the application will not go through unless one has either married an Aussie or has an occupation that falls into the needed skills list. People who have illegally entered Australia from a Muslim country courtesy of "people smugglers" have more rights once cleared from immigration detention than the children of Kiwis born in Australia. Aussies who settle in New Zealand without taking up New Zealand citizenship have far more rights in New Zealand, than New Zealanders have in Australia under the same circumstances. . This came about because Helen Clarke, refused to harmonise New Zealand citizenship criteria with that of Australia, as invited to do so by John Howard. Howard stated that he was not prepared to accept a situation where a person who would not qualify to obtain permanent residency in Australia could move to New Zealand, get NZ citizenship relatively easily, and then enter Australia and automatically qualify for Australian citizenship, which was the case at that time. |
KenESmith (6287) | ||
| 1440518 | 2017-10-24 06:11:00 | "There are a few kiwis too, who having been in Aussie for a bit, had kids born there and then moved back here . The kids should then be evicted right?" The only difference is that the Australian Government does not accept them as Aussies, even if they are adults and never been ouit of the country in their lives, they are New Zealanders and as such, unless they apply and are accepted to be Australian Citizens (at a cost of over $A4000) they will never be Australian, they are not entitled to social welfare, they are not entitled to take advantage of a HECs loan for tertiary education, and they are not entitled to vote, and if they are convicted of an offence carrying a custodial sentence, they can be deported to New Zealand, notwithstanding that they have never lived in New Zealand, and even if they have no living family ties to New Zealand . Not only does it cost over $A4000 to go through the application process, the application will not go through unless one has either married an Aussie or has an occupation that falls into the needed skills list . People who have illegally entered Australia from a Muslim country courtesy of "people smugglers" have more rights once cleared from immigration detention than the children of Kiwis born in Australia . Aussies who settle in New Zealand without taking up New Zealand citizenship have far more rights in New Zealand, than New Zealanders have in Australia under the same circumstances . . This came about because Helen Clarke, refused to harmonise New Zealand citizenship criteria with that of Australia, as invited to do so by John Howard . Howard stated that he was not prepared to accept a situation where a person who would not qualify to obtain permanent residency in Australia could move to New Zealand, get NZ citizenship relatively easily, and then enter Australia and automatically qualify for Australian citizenship, which was the case at that time . What happened squire was immigrants were coming here to soft touch NZ getting NZ citizenship and moving to Oz . This is intolerable and had to stop . A lot of these immigrants were hopeless f***** and just become welfare beneficiaries in Oz . The flow was only one way it had to stop . I have had enough of the social engineering experiment of immigration here . The type of immigrant we want here is someone who will fit into our majority Christian religion/ atheist, non whinger, Caucasian culture . |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 1440519 | 2017-10-24 06:19:00 | What happened squire was immigrants were coming here to soft touch NZ getting NZ citizenship and moving to Oz. This is intolerable and had to stop. A lot of these immigrants were hopeless f***** and just become welfare beneficiaries in Oz. The flow was only one way it had to stop. I have had enough of the social engineering experiment of immigration here. The type of immigrant we want here is someone who will fit into our majority Christian religion/ atheist, non whinger, Caucasian culture. As the biggest whinger on here why are you still here then? |
gary67 (56) | ||
| 1440520 | 2017-10-24 06:30:00 | As the biggest whinger on here why are you still here then? I was born here, Motueka. |
prefect (6291) | ||
| 1440521 | 2017-10-24 06:39:00 | What happened squire was immigrants were coming here to soft touch NZ getting NZ citizenship and moving to Oz. This is intolerable and had to stop. A lot of these immigrants were hopeless f***** and just become welfare beneficiaries in Oz. The flow was only one way it had to stop. I have had enough of the social engineering experiment of immigration here. The type of immigrant we want here is someone who will fit into our majority Christian religion/ atheist, non whinger, Caucasian culture. Helen Clarke refused, to use her own words, "to be dictated to by an Australian PM on NZ Immigration", and so the vast majority of decent Law abiding New Zealanders, who may have wished to move to Australia in the future were disadvantaged. It doesn't stretch the imagination much, to think if it had been the other way round, Kiwi's would have been as p1ssed off as the Aussie Govt was. The same problem is arising in the EU, thanks to Angela Merkel, she invited all sorts of third worlders to come into the EU, once the host country, usually Sweden or Germany gives them citizenship they can move to anywhere in the EU and suck on the welfare state tit of that country, and they are so dumb they can't work out why the taxpayers of member countries get annoyed about it, especially the UK that has a very generous social welfare system. |
KenESmith (6287) | ||
| 1440522 | 2017-10-24 06:47:00 | Why do some of you feel it necessary to make it personal and attack a fellow poster? Sad. | Zippity (58) | ||
| 1440523 | 2017-10-24 07:27:00 | Having been in the thick of things when ship loads of £10 Pom's arrived I can tell you it was an unforgeable experience . OK, to be fair, about 20% were fine, but the other 80% were neither use nor ornament . One of their tricks was to sign on in the morning and head to the toilets with their newspaper, where they would sit until morning tea time reading it . Then they would whinge that the wooden seats needed replacing because they weren’t comfortable . I got assigned to a Pommie Electrician . Now he thought that with a 3 pin Mains Plug as long as he put a wire on each terminal that was all that was required . Then to test it, plugging in an extension lamp was all that was required . If the lamp lit, all must be right . I could go on, but in the end I confronted him and told him there was no way he was, or would ever be, an electrician . He burst out laughing and said: Nahhh, I was a Wharf Policeman on the Thames . He explained that England didn’t have a registration process like ours, and NZ wanted Electricians, so you said you were one, and £10 later you were in NZ creating havoc . Them were the days . :D |
B.M. (505) | ||
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