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Thread ID: 86417	2008-01-16 05:10:00	Vista SP1 RC Refresh Instructions Posted	SurferJoe46 (51)	PC World Chat

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630669	2008-01-16 05:10:00	DISCLAIMER - DISCLAIMER - DISCLAIMER - DISCLAIMER If you install this (SP1 RC Refresh) on any mission-critical machinery you are quite simply mad . I am contacting the authorities . If you are among "individuals, organizations, and technical enthusiasts who are comfortable evaluating pre-release software," you can continue . NOTICE: Users must uninstall any previous version of Vista SP1 before getting RC Refresh . Microsoft instructs users to wait one hour after uninstalling so Windows can "clean up and complete the uninstall" prior to installing RC Refresh . [Microsoft also asks that you wait 15 minutes after eating before continuing with the effort . ] Two to three updates are also required before RC Refresh can be installed — with a restart required after each one . Users then move on to Windows Update readying the prerequisites for the pack "over the next several days . " In a nutshell, don't expect to tackle this thing over lunch . It's highly recommended to make a careful perusal of Microsoft's instructions before attempting this trick . Refresh is time-limited . The deadline for uninstall is June 30, 2008 . After that date, the OS will no longer operate properly . The nice men arriving shortly will make sure the voices go away forever . And may God have mercy on your soul . . microsoft . com/downloads/details . aspx?familyid=529d992a-d69e-4c73-9213-7a7f3852c0ca&displaylang=en&tm" target="_blank">www . microsoft . com	SurferJoe46 (51)
630670	2008-01-16 20:12:00	Microsoft have truly lost the plot. 2-3 updates before installing a service pack?? Thats just nuts.	autechre (266)
630671	2008-01-16 21:25:00	No Not nuts at all - think about it - the software is RC - testing software - NOT RTM. Use it at your own Risk. RC is for people who want to "play" and try out the new software, and its clearly stated - it may cause problems, by the time it goes to final release, most of these problem will hopefully be sorted. In fact in the original RC release, it states this has to be removed BEFORE the final version is installed - when ever that may be.	wainuitech (129)
630672	2008-01-16 21:41:00	I have no complaints about the software being Release Candidate or Beta. The thing i'm on about is that you need to install updates before installing a Service Pack. It should be able to be installed on a bare-bones install of Windows. The fact that you can't slipstream (windowsvistablog.com) SP1 for Vista is another blow to anyone that uses it. "customers cannot apply SP1 to offline Windows Vista images." "The slipstream version of Windows Vista SP1 is media that already contains the service pack"	autechre (266)
630673	2008-01-16 22:25:00	At the end of the day it all means nothing at the moment - its still in testing stages, and as we all know MS change things at their will. That link you provided - did you actually read what you pointed to ?? Slipstream. The slipstream version of Windows Vista SP1 is media that already contains the service pack, which companies can use to deploy the operating system to new computers or to upgrade existing computers. Availability will be limited. Microsoft will update Windows Vista retail media with Windows Vista SP1 slipstream media in the future. Slipstream media will also be available to Volume Licensing customers. I dont know if you read the whole thing - I did.;) Unless you are installing on multi PC's I personally think its a waste of time slipstreaming Service packs - hell by the time you muck about making new install CD's you could have done it manually. If you do it all the time you will have the access to them any way.	wainuitech (129)
630674	2008-01-16 23:48:00	I did read it, it says you can't slipstream SP1. It may be coming with SP2 or some post SP1 updates though. You will be able to buy a new version of Vista at some stage in the future with SP1 integrated and OEMs will get an SP1 image that they can deploy on new PCs. "The slipstream version of Windows Vista SP1 is media that already contains the service pack" - this refers to a DVD/image that already has SP1 on it i.e. one that MS has provided, NOT one that you can do yourself. You may have missed this part - "customers cannot apply SP1 to offline Windows Vista images" Slipstreaming (in XP at least) saves me so much time and hassle. I have reinstalled XP a number of times since SP2 has come out and I can just put in the CD, install XP & i'm done. I don't need to wait an extra hour for the SP to install. Oh well, roll on the next version of Windows :)	autechre (266)
630675	2008-01-17 00:35:00	No need to tell me all the guff about slipstreaming etc, I run my own Computer Business. Most of the people who want to slipstream service packs do it for faster installs when reinstalling, like you mentioned or do it in larger amounts (companies) You may have missed this part - "customers cannot apply SP1 to offline Windows Vista images" I saw it, but No worries, companies can get these - not available to the general public, ususally I suddenly get a package out the blue from MS saying heres ---what ever it may be, or I request it if I want it, handy some times. Slipstreaming (in XP at least) saves me so much time and hassle. I have reinstalled XP a number of times since SP2 has come out and I can just put in the CD, install XP & i'm done. I don't need to wait an extra hour for the SP to install. Agree - install XP patched uptill November last year - so only a couple of updates, along with several programs - 15 Minutes from an image - any PC, as it contains Acronis Universal Restore. Went to a MS workshop a few time they installed Vista - same thing from image 7 minutes. Oh well, roll on the next version of Windows Hmmmm when ever that will be - MS dont exactly keep to time lines :D	wainuitech (129)
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