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Thread ID: 86422	2008-01-16 06:04:00	Unprovoked attacks	qazwsxokmijn (102)	PC World Chat

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630940	2008-01-18 05:40:00	So you just admitted on a public forum that you killed this dog. Which is illegal. Pet chicken or not, you are not allowed to kill it, you are supposed to report it so the proper authorities deal with it. And yes the SPCA will be interested in you. I have had pets killed by wandering dogs, never hurt one of them. I did what you are supposed to do. End of problem. Since when is protecting your pet against getting killed against the law. When I was a kid I remember my Dad shooting dogs worrying sheep on the farm and he wouldnt do anything against the law. I am sure the law dosent place a dogs life higher than a pet brown shaver chicken life. Nothing wrong with taking a pet to the vet, Peck cost $75.00 at the vet in Kumeu for a sprained leg. Kid was chasing her across a deck and she got her leg caught between the boards. People shouldnt let their dogs roam around by themselves dogs just revert to their wolf instincts and do bad stuff. C1	chicken one (6501)
630941	2008-01-18 06:47:00	Since when is protecting your pet against getting killed against the law. When I was a kid I remember my Dad shooting dogs worrying sheep on the farm and he wouldnt do anything against the law. I am sure the law dosent place a dogs life higher than a pet brown shaver chicken life. Nothing wrong with taking a pet to the vet, Peck cost $75.00 at the vet in Kumeu for a sprained leg. Kid was chasing her across a deck and she got her leg caught between the boards. People shouldnt let their dogs roam around by themselves dogs just revert to their wolf instincts and do bad stuff. C1 You said you killed the dog after it has killed Peck. You weren't protecting Peck any longer - you killed the dog out of vengeance. And while I sympathise your loss of Peck, you shouldn't have killed the dog out of vengeance,	qazwsxokmijn (102)
630942	2008-01-18 08:44:00	yes killing dogs is illegal, it is on par with stealing property... but dogs should not be allowed to roam on their own. they cause havoc and can be dangerous chicken1: how a dog can go from chickens to children is very arguable, but now you've explained the situation a bit better i can understand the distress of losing a pet as opposed to what i thought was just one of many chickens. i remember making a pet of one of our many chickens when i was a kid. cat ate it at about 3 or 4 months:( you really should have called the SPCA and the owner of the dog (who is ultimately at fault for that accident) should/would have been fined, and possibly have to pay for the dog to be put down. two wrongs don't make it right; you may have murdered a best friend to several young children because someone forgot to close the front gate and the dog followed it's natural instincts just remember that dogs attacking chickens is very natural unless it's owners specifically brought it up teaching it not to, and similarily very few dogs will attack humans unless they're the chained and fenced in sort that anyone with half a brain would stay away from i might add that attacking a dog is widely considered "provoking an attack", along with jumping a fence into a property without the owner's acknowledgement then again, i have met many dogs (and own one too) that will put up a ferocious display at the front gate, but dare not cross the boundary fence, and if you look carefully you'll often see their tail wagging - they may look vicious, but really they just want a scratch behind the ear.	motorbyclist (188)
630943	2008-01-18 08:53:00	yes killing dogs is illegal, it is on par with stealing property... but dogs should not be allowed to roam on their own. they cause havoc and can be dangerous chicken1: how a dog can go from chickens to children is very arguable, but now you've explained the situation a bit better i can understand the distress of losing a pet as opposed to what i thought was just one of many chickens. i remember making a pet of one of our many chickens when i was a kid. cat ate it at about 3 or 4 months:( should have called the SPCA and the owner of the dog (who is ultimately at fault for that accident) should/would have been fined, and possibly have to pay for the dog to be put down. two wrongs don't make it right; you may have murdered a best friend to several young children because someone forgot to close the front gate and the dog followed it's natural instincts just remember that dogs attacking chickens is very natural unless it's owners specifically brought it up teaching it not to, and similarily very few dogs will attack humans unless they're the chained and fenced in sort that anyone with half a brain would stay away from i have met many dogs (and own one too) that will put up a ferocious display at the front gate, but dare not cross the boundary fence, and if you look carefully you'll often see their tail wagging - they may look vicious, but really they just want a scratch behind the ear. If you have pets/kids/relations/friends etc Motorcyclist and someone is killing them you stand there and watch, good lad. You would have made a great Dutch soldier at Sbrenencia Yugoslavia a few years ago. C1	chicken one (6501)
630944	2008-01-18 09:21:00	If you have pets/kids/relations/friends etc Motorcyclist and someone is killing them you stand there and watch, good lad. You would have made a great Dutch soldier at Sbrenencia Yugoslavia a few years ago. C1 Peck was dead when you found him, correct? There would have been no point in killing the dog when Peck already died. You couldn't have saved her. She was already dead. Gone. Zilch. Bye-bye. It will be a different story in which I'd support you on if you killed the dog when it was plunging for a still living Peck. But the dog had already killed Peck in this case. And as Motorcyclist said, you may well have killed a best friend to several children, because someone had accidentally let the dog roam free. My dog is one of those dogs - black, large and ferocious towards strangers when he's behind the gate. But approach him, pat him and you'll be his friend. If I accidentally let him roam free and he sees chickens, he'll probably chase them. If someone killed my dog, let me tell you I'd be majorly pissed off.	qazwsxokmijn (102)
630945	2008-01-18 09:31:00	No incorrect the chicken died of her wounds after I killed the dog. My neigbour witnessed the whole thing and he would have dobbed me to the feds I am sure if I had done something wrong. Since then I ring the Waitaikere Council if I see any dogs roaming my street. They are pretty good and generally take them away. C1	chicken one (6501)
630946	2008-01-18 09:34:00	No incorrect the chicken died of her wounds after I killed the dog. My neigbour witnessed the whole thing and he would have dobbed me to the feds I am sure if I had done something wrong. Since then I ring the Waitaikere Council if I see any dogs roaming my street. They are pretty good and generally take them away. C1 Well, I guess you have a legitimate reason to kill the dog, no matter how much I hate killing dogs. I probably would have done the same thing. That still doesn't change the fact that I'd be pissed off if anyone killed my dog for any reason though.	qazwsxokmijn (102)
630947	2008-01-18 09:41:00	If you have pets/kids/relations/friends etc Motorcyclist and someone is killing them you stand there and watch, good lad. You would have made a great Dutch soldier at Sbrenencia Yugoslavia a few years ago. if someONE was killing them, it would be wildly different from if someTHING was killing them, and i also seperate animals from people when it come to what's being attacked. if it's a pet i'll be mighty unhappy, but wouldn't put myself in serious harm's way for them. if it was a person, you bet i'd act to stop it, but i wouldn't intentionally kill anyone and Peck sounds like it was going to be dead anyway; we can only make comments using what limited info you give us so please be a bit more specific how'd you feel if someone bludgeoned Peck to death and hid the body because the chicken ruined their prize garden, or at their pet bug/lizard?	motorbyclist (188)
630948	2008-01-18 09:45:00	and Peck sounds like it was going to be dead anyway; we can only make comments using what limited info you give us so please be a bit more specific how'd you feel if someone bludgeoned Peck to death and hid the body because the chicken ruined their prize garden, or at their pet bug/lizard? C1 appears to have tried to stop the dog from killing Peck by, of course, killing the dog. I would have done the same thing - if a larger dog was kicking my dog's ass, and I had a gun, I'd kill the attacking dog. My dog is like my brother, albeit black, walks on four legs and steals steaks when no one's looking.	qazwsxokmijn (102)
630949	2008-01-18 10:34:00	But as an aside...there is this really smart system someone in the states has come up with. You don't get sentenced to "time", you receive "points" for your crime. Once inside you have to work off your points, but the prison staff can add more for bad behavior or take off more for things like earning a trade qualification. Hard labour works off more points etc. Some of the scum in our jails would never get out no matter how small their sentence !!	limepile (96)
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