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| Thread ID: 86515 | 2008-01-19 20:27:00 | State of NZ's power network | somebody (208) | PC World Chat |
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| 631852 | 2008-01-19 20:27:00 | www.nzherald.co.nz This is just ridiculous. If we don't put the pylons through Waikato, and soon, we'll have more problems in the next few years. |
somebody (208) | ||
| 631853 | 2008-01-19 20:53:00 | an interesting read.... anyone know where to get transpower's income/profit numbers for the last few years?? |
robsonde (120) | ||
| 631854 | 2008-01-19 23:32:00 | www.nzherald.co.nz This is just ridiculous. If we don't put the pylons through Waikato, and soon, we'll have more problems in the next few years. I say build a nuclear power plant in Auckland, where most of the power is used, as you lose a lot of power over distance. Either that or build some other generator, such as tidal or wave station. NZ has enjoyed rich times this so far this century, so why our power fees aren't being invested into more power stations, instead of being paid out to shareholders, I don't know. |
robbyp (2751) | ||
| 631855 | 2008-01-20 00:44:00 | New power station being built now at Kawarau which will free up other stations to divert more power to other areas. Plans to bring an older station online and shut down less efficient/less green ones like Huntly is planned for the near future. | Bantu (52) | ||
| 631856 | 2008-01-20 00:46:00 | Transpower's revenue is fixed by the govt at inflation minus 1%, they're not allowed to charge more than this. As they're not even allowed to increase rates enough to cover inflation, is it really any surprise that this has happened? About a year ago (I think) they tried increasing rates anyway (their target was 16%pa over a few years if I recall correctly) because they were so desperate for cash to invest in infrastructure. The govt shot them down after protests from customers and also denied them a direct application for more cash. I agree that nuclear power would be a very good thing :thumbs:. Robbyp, Transpower is a SOE, it doesn't have shareholders. I think you're referring to local power distribution/generation companies - these don't actually have anything to do with the main grid infrastructure. Edit: What Transpower charges usually equals around 2% of a typical power bill. |
Erayd (23) | ||
| 631857 | 2008-01-20 02:50:00 | Nuclear energy is the only viable and cost-effective system now left to be utilized. Too bad that almost everyone in this country jumps on the anti-nuclear, we are green bandwagon just to stick it to the USA and France. Losers. | beeswax34 (63) | ||
| 631858 | 2008-01-20 03:05:00 | No need for Nuclear. Cheaper and less risk to harvest the Sea, Rivers or Wind. Wind generators south of Hastings and down near Lumsden, not sure how many others out there. Wind generation can now be put within Cities on tall buildings and the city updrafts power the blades, these type are silent in comparison with the ones you see South of Hastings. Several cities overseas have this type of generation. It will not matter what type of generation is set up the Greenies will complain about it. Creating a power station on a river to make use of renewable energy in order to shut down a polluting type of power station such as Huntly would make sense for the long term, but try getting something like that past the greenies. Once someone invents a way to store electricity long term then problem solved. IF all the power generation plants in NZ were to shut down (unlikely, maybe) Mighty River Power (SOE) have the awesome responsibility to kick start the generation process to get them up and running again. The equipment required to do this is tested every so often to make sure it can happen. |
Bantu (52) | ||
| 631859 | 2008-01-20 03:16:00 | Forget wind its not constant, forget sea RMA will kill it. Forget hydro RMA will kill it to. Forget nuke although its the best option, because idiot people will protest against it. The solution is coal why hasnt someone thought of it before make a coal burning power station near our coalmines and start burning the stuff. Then just plant some token trees to keep the greenies happy to soak up some CO2. C1 |
chicken one (6501) | ||
| 631860 | 2008-01-20 03:34:00 | No need for Nuclear . Cheaper and less risk to harvest the Sea, Rivers or Wind . Wind generators south of Hastings and down near Lumsden, not sure how many others out there . Wind generation can now be put within Cities on tall buildings and the city updrafts power the blades, these type are silent in comparison with the ones you see South of Hastings . Several cities overseas have this type of generation . It will not matter what type of generation is set up the Greenies will complain about it . Creating a power station on a river to make use of renewable energy in order to shut down a polluting type of power station such as Huntly would make sense for the long term, but try getting something like that past the greenies . Once someone invents a way to store electricity long term then problem solved . IF all the power generation plants in NZ were to shut down (unlikely, maybe) Mighty River Power (SOE) have the awesome responsibility to kick start the generation process to get them up and running again . The equipment required to do this is tested every so often to make sure it can happen . You don't get the energy density with wind, hydro, or sea, compared to nuclear . Huntly currently does well over 1000MW of generation - replacing that with wind, hydro, or sea based solutions is simply not feasible . Nuclear doesn't take up too much space, can be put pretty much anywhere without consideration for wind patterns, rainfall etc . and can generate a LOT of power with very little fuel . |
somebody (208) | ||
| 631861 | 2008-01-20 03:53:00 | The problem is not what should be used but the fact that regardless of whether its pylons, water, whatever - anywhere its proposed the community jump up and down screaming about the loss of their view, environment, whatever. NIMBys. Thats the problem. |
pctek (84) | ||
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