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| Thread ID: 86497 | 2008-01-18 22:23:00 | Do You Have Telepathic Ability? | Roscoe (6288) | PC World Chat |
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| 631676 | 2008-01-22 20:29:00 | ...Hunches more than anything else. Hunch: "An intuitive feeling or a premonition" Ah, so we are allowing premonitions now but not telepathy. Scientific proof for premonitions please. |
Mercury (1316) | ||
| 631677 | 2008-01-22 22:02:00 | Hunch: "An intuitive feeling or a premonition" Ah, so we are allowing premonitions now but not telepathy. Scientific proof for premonitions please. I didnt see premonition used. A hunch is normally from something not right or warning signs, that has been learnt from other experiences. |
rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 631678 | 2008-01-22 23:30:00 | Has anyone actually read the JREF website? This is the process I have observed : the claimant makes a claim, JREF modify the claim to the point where the claimant says "I can't do that" and then JREF claim 'I told you so' . I'm yet to find a claim that hasn't been modified in some way by JREF and can't be bothered reading any more . IMO it's pathetic - so if you want to save yourself half an hour, take my advice and don't bother reading it . Closed minded vs open minded? That is a double-edged sword you wield there Bruce . How can you claim someone is closed minded or their claims are rubbish if you don't have proof their claims are rubbish? Can you prove or disprove any such 'hocus pocus' claims? No you can't . The absence of proof of something doesn't necessarily deny it's existence . Equally the inability to disprove something doesn't mean it is (or isn't) true . Where do these people get off claiming belief in something that cannot be proved or disproved satisfies some sort of emotional need? Beliefs and needs operate on so many different levels that such claims are laughable - comparing belief in a higher being to being open-minded about telepathy are on 2 completely different levels . Although I agree there are a number of charlatans who ply their beliefs in pursuit of the mighty dollar (religions included) . But I say it cuts the other way - expecting everything to be explained / explainable shows the need for an emotional crutch that somehow we are in control of our destiny and masters of our own universe . I can't prove that either way but my opinion is that not everything can be explained with the knowledge and technology we have today . To assume we 'know' everything and that everything can be explained is utter twaddle . What generation has ever thought 'No we don't everything but the next generation will!"? I would say precisely zero . Do we know more than previous generations? Of course we do - we stand on the shoulders of giants . There will be generations to come who will condescendingly laugh at some of the beliefs we hold as true today . Whether or not that includes subjects like 'the big bang', telepathy, sub-atomic particles, magnetism, quantum computing and so forth remain to be seen . My bet is that we won't be around to see it . If someone claims to have an ability, I'm not in a position to judge them - I might have an opinion, but I can't support or refute someone's claim without a degree of proof that would satisfy me . How that level of proof compares to someone else's is 100% irrelevant - we live in a free society and we can have differing standards . You cannot deny someone's beliefs but you can agree to disagree without making a personal attack . Prescription : a chill pill for each person getting wound about this . Andrew :cool: P . S . Pre-emptive response to naysayers and nitpickers : "I knew you'd say that" . :) |
andrew93 (249) | ||
| 631679 | 2008-01-22 23:33:00 | Hunch: "An intuitive feeling or a premonition" Ah, so we are allowing premonitions now but not telepathy. Scientific proof for premonitions please. There are things you are aware of without consciously thinking about. Infrasound causes all sorts of responses generally associated with the spooky. Its a real effect but you would have no idea why you feel as you do. |
pctek (84) | ||
| 631680 | 2008-01-22 23:55:00 | [QUOTE=andrew93;636700] Prescription : a chill pill for each person getting wound about this. QUOTE] I think the thing is people claiming to have all this 'stuff' and no proof they actually can. Good hard proof or facts, either one. So us 'non believers' have to believe you with no evidence (and i mean good evidence) or else we are close minded. Go figure that one... Either way, if you could see the future, have telepathy, I highly doubt you'd be wasting your time on a forum when there is plenty of money to be made. You'd be a fool not to. |
rob_on_guitar (4196) | ||
| 631681 | 2008-01-23 00:49:00 | I didnt see premonition used . A hunch is normally from something not right or warning signs, that has been learnt from other experiences . Try dictionary . com ( . reference . com/browse/hunch" target="_blank">dictionary . reference . com) as I did . American Heritage Dictionary ( . reference . com/help/ahd4 . html" target="_blank">dictionary . reference . com) - Cite This Source ( . reference . com/cite . html?qh=hunch&ia=ahd4" target="_blank">dictionary . reference . com) - Share This ( . reference . com/browse/hunch#sharethis" target="_blank">dictionary . reference . com) hunch . lexico . com/g/d/premium . gif" target="_blank">cache . lexico . com . lexico . com/g/d/speaker . gif" target="_blank">cache . lexico . com ( . reference . com/premium/login . html?rd=2&u=http%3A%2F%2Fdictionary . reference . com%2Fbrowse%2" target="_blank">secure . reference . com Fhunch) (hŭnch) Pronunciation Key ( . lexico . com/help/ahd4/pronkey . html" target="_blank">cache . lexico . com) n . <LI minmax_bound="true">An intuitive feeling or a premonition: had a hunch that he would lose . <LI minmax_bound="true">A hump . <LI minmax_bound="true">A lump or chunk: "She . . . cut herself another hunch of bread" (Virginia Woolf) . </FONT minmax_bound="true"> A push or shove . |
Mercury (1316) | ||
| 631682 | 2008-01-23 01:08:00 | So us 'non believers' have to believe you with no evidence (and i mean good evidence) or else we are close minded. Not at all Rob. It depends on a persons viewpoint and (as you already know) you don't have to believe anything. It is equally close minded of someone to believe there is telepathy if there is evidence to the contrary. But either way there is no evidence, so to not believe in it is quite acceptable. The point being that accusations of close-mindedness go both ways because there is no evidence. If I came to you and said I can do 'such and such' a thing (because I know I can) for you to then refute it would be close-minded in the absence of any evidence (because I can). To not give an opinion either way would actually be open-minded. You're receptive to the idea but not offering an opinion. But to refute and then denigrate the person in the process (again without any evidence to the contrary) is IMO pig-headed (not aimed at you). Cheers Andrew P.S. I knew you'd say that! :lol: |
andrew93 (249) | ||
| 631683 | 2008-01-23 01:14:00 | This is how to sort............. Leave next weeks lotto numbers for we septics and you will have instants coverts and we will add apologise as our middle name. |
Cicero (40) | ||
| 631684 | 2008-01-23 03:06:00 | Ah well, here we go: Telepathy is not about seeing into the future, predicting lotto results or anything as hokum-ish as that . It is simple about getting a sudden strong feeling (premonition if you wish) that a particular event is about to happen, an unknown but possibly harmful situation is about to arise, or something incredibly mundane is about to occur, as I will relate soon . If you are very close to somebody the chances are enhanced but it remains unpredictable and cannot be conjured up at will . I am a skeptic for all matters religious, fortune- telling or reading messages from the dead etc (though I'd love to know how many wrong guesses are tossed before we get the result on that current TV show) . However, Mrs T and I are very close and have been for 25 years, despite my best attempts to shake her off . :D No matter where she is, I almost always know when she is five minutes from home and leave my office to put the kettle on . By the time the kettle boils more often than not she is backing down the driveway . I can get that right 4 days out of 5 and sometimes more than once a day, yet I have know idea at all where she is or when she is due home as she has so many activites outside our home that I can't even begin to follow, and she doesn't tell me where she is going or when she'll be back unless I specifically ask . There are other instances, like her picking up the phone knowing it is me calling and vice versa, all of this is random as I do not keep regular hours of work either . We laugh about it, and wonder, but it strengthens the bond between us and for a born sceptic, rationalist and technically-driven pragmatist I find it impossible to understand so I just accept it . Others reading this thread may have similar experiences but be reluctant to expose themselves to ridicule from members not fortunate enough to experience this intriguing and interesting gift . Myself I don't give a toss what anybody thinks, I know what I know and I feel what I feel, and it is some form of telepathy . Those who merely disbelieve are entitled to their view, but those who ridicule are tele-pathetic . We had better debate and more tolerance on the religion versus agnosticism thread, and that is usually a sure-fire war starter . Gotta go, she'll be home any minute . Cheers Billy 8-{) |
Billy T (70) | ||
| 631685 | 2008-01-23 04:07:00 | I do believe dogs have been known to do the above. Know when master due.B will know what that means.:thumbs: |
Cicero (40) | ||
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