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| Thread ID: 86497 | 2008-01-18 22:23:00 | Do You Have Telepathic Ability? | Roscoe (6288) | PC World Chat |
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| 631656 | 2008-01-22 01:25:00 | No it will not. I truly open mind - in the absence of any proof done to scientifically correct, and verified methods will say, "there is nothing here". This open/closed mind bull**** really pisses me off. There are innumerable studies and investigations - not to mention plain bloody logic - that debunks this kind of hokum. In the face of this, the open mind accepts the truth. The closed mind rejects logic and science and clings to mysticism. That is a closed mind. There is no difference between a caveman dressing in animal skins to take on the power of the beast and someone with a holier-than-thou attitude claiming that that great aunt Mavis has contacted them from beyond the grave and told them where she left the car keys before she died. Why are people so vehement in their arguments. In the history of science there are many turnarounds. What was once considered a scientific truth gets debunked by further research and enlightenment. To vehemently and arbitrarily adopt a particular stance in the absence of real proof either way denotes to me a closed mind. |
heaton (3697) | ||
| 631657 | 2008-01-22 02:11:00 | Why are people so vehement in their arguments. In the history of science there are many turnarounds. What was once considered a scientific truth gets debunked by further research and enlightenment. To vehemently and arbitrarily adopt a particular stance in the absence of real proof either way denotes to me a closed mind. Sigh. I despair of your use of the word "enlightenment" in this context. I really do. Where once humanity struggled free of its medieval superstitions, in the great Age of Enlightenment, now the word is used to describe believing in mystical hocus pocus. And since, by it's very nature, it can never be disproved (no more than I can disprove the assertion that God likes feta cheese for breakfast, dresses in tailored suits and enjoys the historical novels of Bernard Cornwell), you use that fact to claim we should keep an "open mind". Further, that NOT to acknowledge the possibility of all this mystical nonsense being true, means we have a "closed mind". You offer no proofs. You offer no arguments for why such things should be true, or could be true. You merely state they might be. Well, I might be God. Or I might not. If you deny I am God, then you have a closed mind - because you have no proof that I am not. And I do get worked up about this, because it is fundamental to the future of the human race. Either we stop believing in stupid, childish bull****, and get on with saving ourselves and building a world based on realities we can embrace, understand and influence for the better, or we always stay just one step away from the cavemen. And I find that intensely depressing. Believe if you will in telepathy, the supernatural, God and his minions, the tooth fairy, UFOs and little pixies that live at the bottom of the garden, but please spare me the pathetic, ill-conceived pseudo babble that attempts to paint me as a closed-mind fool for not acknowledging the possibility if their existence. You want to think you are being rational for "allowing" that such things might be true, when in fact you merely seek a justification for your emotional need to believe in them. Well, you can't have it both ways. All these claims have been tested. None have come up triumphant. No one has had the balls to submit to the JREF's scientific testing of their supernatural abilities. TV shows made for entertainment, and designed to appeal to the credulous, do not count as "proof". Either these things are real in which case they can be proven, or they are fantasy, in which case they can not. |
Biggles (121) | ||
| 631658 | 2008-01-22 02:46:00 | I am prepared to believe we are just one step away from the cavemen. However, I have faith that if we take that step, we can catch up and maybe even get ahead before the end of the millennium. Of course, that may be unduly optimistic. |
R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 631659 | 2008-01-22 03:18:00 | Sigh . I despair of your use of the word "enlightenment" in this context . I really do . Where once humanity struggled free of its medieval superstitions, in the great Age of Enlightenment, now the word is used to describe believing in mystical hocus pocus . And since, by it's very nature, it can never be disproved (no more than I can disprove the assertion that God likes feta cheese for breakfast, dresses in tailored suits and enjoys the historical novels of Bernard Cornwell), you use that fact to claim we should keep an "open mind" . Further, that NOT to acknowledge the possibility of all this mystical nonsense being true, means we have a "closed mind" . You offer no proofs . You offer no arguments for why such things should be true, or could be true . You merely state they might be . Well, I might be God . Or I might not . If you deny I am God, then you have a closed mind - because you have no proof that I am not . And I do get worked up about this, because it is fundamental to the future of the human race . Either we stop believing in stupid, childish bull****, and get on with saving ourselves and building a world based on realities we can embrace, understand and influence for the better, or we always stay just one step away from the cavemen . And I find that intensely depressing . Believe if you will in telepathy, the supernatural, God and his minions, the tooth fairy, UFOs and little pixies that live at the bottom of the garden, but please spare me the pathetic, ill-conceived pseudo babble that attempts to paint me as a closed-mind fool for not acknowledging the possibility if their existence . You want to think you are being rational for "allowing" that such things might be true, when in fact you merely seek a justification for your emotional need to believe in them . Well, you can't have it both ways . All these claims have been tested . None have come up triumphant . No one has had the balls to submit to the JREF's scientific testing of their supernatural abilities . TV shows made for entertainment, and designed to appeal to the credulous, do not count as "proof" . Either these things are real in which case they can be proven, or they are fantasy, in which case they can not . Methinks you protesteth too much . I have already stated that there are many charlatans and I agree much bull**** abounds, but there are many occasions where certain phenomena cannot be explained by so call scientific means and should be treated with an open mind . Why are the Russians budgeting large sums of money to investigate so called para-normal phenomena and the CIA and American military also conducting research . My point is that to take such a solid stand and condemn all such phenomena as fantasy and bull**** denotes a mind not open to the possibility that some of the so called bull**** might just be true . |
heaton (3697) | ||
| 631660 | 2008-01-22 05:33:00 | Methinks you protesteth too much. I have already stated that there are many charlatans and I agree much bull**** abounds, but there are many occasions where certain phenomena cannot be explained by so call scientific means and should be treated with an open mind. Why are the Russians budgeting large sums of money to investigate so called para-normal phenomena and the CIA and American military also conducting research. My point is that to take such a solid stand and condemn all such phenomena as fantasy and bull**** denotes a mind not open to the possibility that some of the so called bull**** might just be true. Telepathy FAQ Q. Is telepathy a load of hogwash. A. Yes You prove to me Russia (CIS) is spending large amounts of dosh on paranormal stuff. How many roubles Sorry for stealing FAQ format from plod. C1 |
chicken one (6501) | ||
| 631661 | 2008-01-22 05:57:00 | When my mother was a kid her mother sensed something seriously wrong next door. She went and investigated and found the husband about to kill his wife and then himself. Her turning up stopped it. And no, this wasn't a neighbourhood where neighbours dropped in on each other for a quick chat and a cup of tea but middle-class, wealthy Britain where privacy ruled. Just because I haven't got a great deal of it doesn't mean that I don't believe that some have better developed senses in this area than others. |
Mercury (1316) | ||
| 631662 | 2008-01-22 06:04:00 | Nearest I have managed to get to telepathy is pathetic service from telecom. Does that count? | R2x1 (4628) | ||
| 631663 | 2008-01-22 06:24:00 | When my mother was a kid her mother sensed something seriously wrong next door. She went and investigated and found the husband about to kill his wife and then himself. Her turning up stopped it. And no, this wasn't a neighbourhood where neighbours dropped in on each other for a quick chat and a cup of tea but middle-class, wealthy Britain where privacy ruled. Just because I haven't got a great deal of it doesn't mean that I don't believe that some have better developed senses in this area than others. Sensed as in peeking through the window and seeing a man wielding a knife making stabbing motions? Awesome telepathy... Or maybe it was the screams from people who were about to be killed but you know, its probably telepathy. Yeah Right. |
beeswax34 (63) | ||
| 631664 | 2008-01-22 06:45:00 | Elderly couple with medical problems. Thwarted euthanasia. In many ways my grandmother wished she hadn't stopped it. | Mercury (1316) | ||
| 631665 | 2008-01-22 06:57:00 | No, beeswax34, YOU (and the others) judged yourself, simply by your reply. I did post a site where you could read about the American and Russian experiments. Perhaps it was beneath most of you to have a look: books.google.com Why don't you have a look? |
Roscoe (6288) | ||
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