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Thread ID: 86617	2008-01-22 22:23:00	Why don't "Fair Go" have a go at Microsoft or software Companies	Morgenmuffel (187)	PC World Chat

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632915	2008-01-24 18:40:00	Sounds pretty right there Cicero. Better safe than sorry ;) Thought that might be to your taste R2,so to speak.:thumbs:	Cicero (40)
632916	2008-01-24 22:15:00	Mister Harbies. Where do you buy? If you get a comp from a computer store then you can usually add and remove whatever you want. Some online suppliers even do that for you if you search hard enough. Or you could make your own. I buy from the computer shop. Have a look around for laptops without an operating system. There are none I know of. I use Linux so when I buy a laptop, I am forced to accept that Windows is already installed on the computer. I have asked that it be removed because I don't want it. They won't. Therefore Microsoft has forced me to use Windows. **** that! When I want a computer (not a laptop), I am able to buy the parts, and have to build it myself, all without an operating system, but the average John Doe is not able to install a computer from scratch. I have the right to say, 'No Microsoft Windows please, I have another OS I prefer to use.' We don't have that choice.	mister harbies (5607)
632917	2008-02-16 20:56:00	In a number of carefully controlled trials, scientists have demonstrated that if we drink 1 liter of water each day, at the end of the year we would have absorbed more than 1 kilo of Escherichia coli, (E. coli) - bacteria found in feces. In other words, we are consuming 1 kilo of poop. Are you serious? That would mean 2.7ml (over half a teaspoon) of E. Coli in every jug of water.... 2.7ml * 365 = 1000mls or 1 liter (if the density of E. Coli is equal to water that would equate to 1 kg) Half a teaspoon in ever jug of water? Maybe you should stop drinking out of your toilet. Why do people believe the Bull "E. Coli" people tell them in bars?	porkster (6331)
632918	2008-02-16 21:26:00	Are you serious? That would mean 2 . 7ml (over half a teaspoon) of E . Coli in every jug of water . . . . 2 . 7ml * 365 = 1000mls or 1 liter (if the density of E . Coli is equal to water that would equate to 1 kg) Half a teaspoon in ever jug of water? Maybe you should stop drinking out of your toilet . Why do people believe the Bull "E . Coli" people tell them in bars? You forget, a lot of the bugs we get each day are from MS, that's why installing Windows, and then the updates (Very significant phrase?), the drivers, the essential anti-virus precautions, and then the applications software changes is such a pain in the proverbial . So, if you use Winderz, you are getting a ton of it every week . Water at a mere Kg per annum is pristine . :rolleyes: Just at the moment, I am forced to use Winderz, and it is already starting to give me the . . . . .	R2x1 (4628)
632919	2008-02-16 23:13:00	I buy from the computer shop. Have a look around for laptops without an operating system. There are none I know of. I use Linux so when I buy a laptop, I am forced to accept that Windows is already installed on the computer. I have asked that it be removed because I don't want it. They won't. Therefore Microsoft has forced me to use Windows. **** that! That would be how Windows scored 95% market share. You have a "choice" of which version of Windows you want to use when you buy any new PC. Any OEM who refuses to load Windows on their PC is breaking their agreement with Microsoft and I think that enables Microsoft to sue them or something which could be dangerous for the OEM considering MS's deep pockets. MS sued Linspire in Holland a few years ago for offering PCs with no platform so that customers could install Linux if they wanted rather than Windows. Apparently a reasonable number did.	vitalstatistix (9182)
632920	2008-02-16 23:18:00	That would be how Windows scored 95% market share. You have a "choice" of which version of Windows you want to use when you buy any new PC. Any OEM who refuses to load Windows on their PC is breaking their agreement with Microsoft and I think that enables Microsoft to sue them or something which could be dangerous for the OEM considering MS's deep pockets. MS sued Linspire in Holland a few years ago for offering PCs with no platform so that customers could install Linux if they wanted rather than Windows. Apparently a reasonable number did. Times change very rapidly in the IT business - Dell Sell PC's laptops and Offer Linux (www.dell.com) - last time I looked MS dont own Linux - Yet:rolleyes:	wainuitech (129)
632921	2008-02-16 23:25:00	MS sued Linspire in Holland a few years ago for offering PCs with no platform so that customers could install Linux if they wanted rather than Windows. Apparently a reasonable number did. Microsoft doesn't like to give customers "choice" i.e. if you can buy a pc without an operating system you can put a pirated version of Windows on it rather than Linux (and it does happen of course). But choice is all about not having things dictated to you.	dolby digital (5073)
632922	2008-02-16 23:29:00	Times change very rapidly in the IT business - Dell Sell PC's laptops and Offer Linux (www.dell.com) - last time I looked MS dont own Linux - Yet:rolleyes: I doubt they ever will "own" Linux since there is no central corporate structure to buy which would be a good thing in this case. Of course MS are making "efforts" to work with Linux too....	vitalstatistix (9182)
632923	2008-02-16 23:45:00	I doubt they ever will "own" Linux since there is no central corporate structure to buy which would be a good thing in this case. Which was possibly wainui's point.	Thebananamonkey (7741)
632924	2008-02-17 00:48:00	Which was possibly wainui's point. Yep that was the point - Kind of :) If MS could control how and when Linux (what ever distro) is produced or how it is distributed - who knows what would happen. The biggest problem of course in selling a PC with no OS is if a person installs what ever software they wish - would there be drivers for it ? I know this is happening with new PC's and Vista, but if the software manufactures have a known windows platform and known hardware at least they have something to work with. An Example; I have used Linux to "play with" - see whats on offer - some distros wouldn't even load - driver issues, while others had no problems, all on the exact same hardware. Finding help with so many different versions of linux can sometimes be hard - and lots of people would give up. I've seen it time and time again - someone puts a different OS on a Laptop - and it doesn't work - Is the OS Blamed - NO - its the maker of the Laptop.	wainuitech (129)
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