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Thread ID: 86601 2008-01-22 03:17:00 Sorry World, Here Comes Da Bad News SurferJoe46 (51) PC World Chat
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632749 2008-01-25 01:42:00 Bush invaded Iraq to get at the oil which was subject to embargo.
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chicken one (6501)
632750 2008-01-25 01:51:00 but, what? explain..... motorbyclist (188)
632751 2008-01-25 03:44:00 Bush invaded Iraq to get at the oil which was subject to embargo .
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Aw . . . c'mon!

I don't want to get all political . . . . I don't vote anyway . . . . . but let me illuminate a little . . (my dime now) . . . . . . . . . . . .

The silliest notions come from those who don't read history . . but . . and I digress here a little right here . . . this ISN'T something that can be gleaned from history . It's all new turf these days .

BIG point first:

The US has more capped oil wells that any place on earth . I know . . . I see and saw them getting capped in the mid- to late- 1960s in places like the Standard Oil Lease in Huntington Beach, California and Long Beach . . same state . . etc .


The Oxnard and Palo Verde wells are all capped .

The Fresno/San Francisco wells are all capped .

The Signal Hill wells are all capped .

The Bakersfield wells are all capped .

See these links:


. geocities . com/espee9164/s . cal . oil . html" target="_blank">www . geocities . com

. priweb . org/ed/pgws/history/signal_hill/signal_hill2 . html" target="_blank">www . priweb . org

. geocities . com/mudsmeller/oilfacts . html" target="_blank">www . geocities . com



There are many many more capped wells in Oklahoma, Texas, Florida, Alaska . . . all what SEEMS to be a show for bowing to the Greenies . . but it ain't .

There they sit . . . capped and full of oil . How do I know they are full of oil?

I worked for a cryogenic gasses company that perfected a shale oil extraction method using liquid nitrogen to displace and chase the oil into pockets that have since been capped and not pumped out for . . well . . 40+ years now .

I don't even so much as smell the swamp gas that was so evident in Huntington Beach when I was a teenager . That methane gas is too valuable to lose to the atmosphere any more . . . so they pump it into condensation plants and liquefy it for future electrical generation .

They store the liquid underground like the fabled Teapot Dome scandal from a few decades ago .

Here's the way I see the man-behind-the-curtain scenario going on right now:
The US is using mirrors and smoke bombs to confuse the people into thinking that it needs to exploit the Mid-Eastern & Oriental oil fields as a last-ditch effort to maintain the lifestyle that USers want and need to continue to keep their lifestyle alive, valid and self-aggrandizing .

Burn up the Shieks' oil first, switch to the Mexican oil and use it all up . . then become the greatest power in the world (again) when it has the oil under it's own soil and can dole it out (or not) to countries that lockstep into sync with the US policies .

The Prudoe Bay, Alaskan Shelf, California/Texas oil fields and all the Gulf Of Mexico/Bahamian shelf etc, all have vast oil supplies . . . I saw the NASA petroleum maps in the late 60s too . It's there . . believe me .

Not my thoughts here: but just maybe the US is taking names and keeping records on who says and what is said about itself by other grumblers and naysayers . . . who knows?!?

It won't work, of course . . . but it is a grand plan . . . if this system lasted long enuff .

Coincidentally . . California AND the US Gummerment are BOTH trying to impose a 40-cent tax on each gallon . That's gonna raise the price 80-cents a gallon .

Just what the economy needs!?!?!


US Gallon = 3 . 79 Liters
so . . . . $4 . 00 / 3 . 79 = X
X = $5 . 19 NZD per liter . or $5 . 23 NZD . . . or so . . . I'm confused . . . and haven't had my drugs yet . (I can be corrected here without being angry)


So . . if my math is close to correct . . we are paying about $5 . 48 NZD per liter at today's prices . . . . . . but add another 80-cents per gallon and we go 'way off the board .
SurferJoe46 (51)
632752 2008-01-25 04:21:00 1 US gallon = 3.79 Litres
US$4 = NZ$5.18

so NZ$/L = $1.37

here in NZ we pay about $1.70 per litre for "91 unleaded", which is actually 86, and $1.80 for "98" which is closer to 95 (and this is after it's gone down)

mind you about 50c of that or more is tax, and i dunno what tax for you is, and the different markups that our gas stations use



next time remember to carry the 3 :lol:


though i do find your proposition about the USA's "grand scheme" interesting. plausible provided the premise is correct.

here's hoping the world has properly switched off oil by the time the middle east runs dry. the switch to geothermal, wind, hydro and solar is gaining momentum, and raising oil prices only push the switch further

EDIT: omg i might be sounding like WMG at this rate:eek:
motorbyclist (188)
632753 2008-01-25 12:26:00 ok, just bought some gas, actually $1.86 for the "98 octane" fuel

if only people knew how filthy and the amount of water in fuels from groups like mobil and shell they'd never buy them again

then there'd be more BP stations so we can actually buy petrol
motorbyclist (188)
632754 2008-01-25 20:32:00 The fuel all comes out of the same tanks and pipeline from Marsden Point.

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chicken one (6501)
632755 2008-01-26 03:41:00 The fuel all comes out of the same tanks and pipeline from Marsden Point .

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from what i hear, that is not entirely true . not all of it is refined in NZ, different brands use different additives and trust me, i've run numerous tests and comparisons between the different brands:nerd:

shell was the worst fouling my dirtbike plugs within an hour, mobil is the worst for having water in it (and doesn't even taste like petrol when you have to siphon the crap out cause your bike wont start due to the water), caltex is bearable, gull isn't too bad, and BP not only gave the best plug life but running BP's "98" i got a 20% improvement in mileage on my road bike (making it cheaper to run on than 91)

i'm not the only biker to have come to the same conclusion either, and i hear from a guy working at shell that shell does know that the BP fuel is superior

in a car you don't notice it so much, on a bike where drilling holes in the airbox to improve flow to the filter gives a noticeable boost you can clearly tell the difference between different quality fuels .

infact, the last time i bought mobil was due to running out of gas and pushing it into the station . despite the eftpos at pump they still had it on prepay, for which there was one guy at the desk during rush hour trafficand i was running late:mad:
bought 5 bucks, and sure enough come time to leave uni the bike won't start until the carbies have been drained (which meant flattening the battery) . next morning the bike wouldn't start, battery hadn't recovered enough to power the starter to pump the carbies out again so i had to siphon the gas and pull of the tank etc to get at the carbies to drain them . got some 98 in there and she started no problem

dad filled up at mobil one night, was running on two of four cylinders by the time he had gotten home again:groan:

just last week my mate's bike stopped starting after filling up on mobil . drained and replaced with bp and no problems

they are definetly not the same between brands, even between stations they can vary .
motorbyclist (188)
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