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786053 2009-06-26 06:03:00 How bad - or good - are integrated graphics these days? I remember when motherboards only had 8 mb of graphics but what is it like now? If a computer with Win XP has 1 or 2 Gb of RAM are there mb's with 128 or 256 mb of graphics that do a decent job? Would you need 3 or 4 G of RAM with Vista?

Not for high end games, but what about video editing?

I have looked at Tom's Hardware and Tech Report sites which give statistical analysis but I wonder what your personal experience has been . . .

I see adverts for laptops without dedicated graphics, i . e . they have onboard graphics . My wife has an old laptop, about 6 years old, Win XP, low specs when purchased, but it does simple photo editing just fine and viewing videos is OK . It would seem that the (cheap, low spec) laptops these days would be considerably better .
Strommer (42)
786054 2009-06-26 06:09:00 Terrible.
Because graphics are for gaming. And integrated fails on that.
Anything else onboard is fine.
pctek (84)
786055 2009-06-26 08:48:00 Onboard GFX still suck for gaming.

For simple stuff, its usually just right though.
Blam (54)
786056 2009-06-26 09:09:00 I don't game and do some easy video editing on this dual core machine and occasionally on an old P4 they both have integrated graphics mobo's and cope just fine, but as I said I don't game gary67 (56)
786057 2009-06-26 09:42:00 I don't game and do some easy video editing on this dual core machine and occasionally on an old P4 they both have integrated graphics mobo's and cope just fine, but as I said I don't game

Thanks gary67. Glad to hear that your integrated graphics cope ok.

Blam and pctek, remember I said "Not for high end games...".
I know onboard graphics will suck with games. I do see that you mention "simple stuff" and "anything else" is ok, but not sure if you have actually tried video editing with integrated graphics (or what the specs for the onboard graphics would be).

What I am interested in is actual user experience when used for photo and video editing, also for viewing videos.
Strommer (42)
786058 2009-06-26 09:51:00 Depends how picky you are.

Imo a well thought out PC has a video card, and I have yet to use an integrated system that performs as well as a PC with a video card, and I'm talking right across the board.

Though it may be all in my mind.
Metla (12)
786059 2009-06-26 09:55:00 Some video cards have a dedicated video decoding capability that is designed to take the load off the CPU.

Some video editors claim to take advantage of this sort of technology to hasten the encoding time (like this (www.cyberlink.com) for example).

I did do some basic video editing with Premier elements 4 (trial) on a laptop that had integrated graphics. It seemed to run OK.
davidmmac (4619)
786060 2009-06-26 10:01:00 I dont think it matters what videocard you use for video editing. I havent used onboard for video, BUT it hasnt been the most expensive card either. The speed of a CPU, the OS you use, and the amount of ram, would be more important. The only thing, I've used is firewire to transfer video, then I edit it, if I have to. I do it on this, (and have done it on a P4) with an ATI 256mb card Speedy Gonzales (78)
786061 2009-06-26 10:20:00 Integrated graphics still suck, but some are capable of running Aero - just.

IMO any video card will be fine for video editing (and I would hope so: I may need to create a video on my netbook at school soon :eek:).
pcuser42 (130)
786062 2009-06-26 10:30:00 The video card affects how fast things happen on screen when your editing the video, when you have a few gig of videos all loaded into memory and cut up into little pieces and reassembled and then ask for a real time play back including rendering the effects like transitions and filters, Your pissy integrated graphical video chipset will cause it to damn near die, and thats after 2 hours of hampering your efforts.

When you do the actual rendering the video chipset has no effect, that comes down to how grunty your CPU is, and your harddrives.

Though I'm not suggesting anyone needs a high end gaming video card for video editing, and if its just a one off it isn't going to matter, If you like to do things that suck that is.
Metla (12)
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