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Thread ID: 86817	2008-01-29 22:42:00	School leaving age	JJJJJ (528)	PC World Chat

Post ID	Timestamp	Content	User
635215	2008-01-30 06:30:00	Two !@#$%^& ideas from Mr Key. He is a good bugger but I think he been set up some advisers. I feel sorry for the school teachers having to control youths 16 to 18 that dont want to be in class it wont work. There must be an out clause for loser students especialy in low decile areas like South Auckland but no dole if they take the loser out clause. Sending the losers to the army will not work for most of them. I sure hope they dont teach them about guns. There is no conscription now and you cant make someone become a soldier if they dont want top be there. I did 30 years in military as a volunteer joined 2 days after my 16th birthday, and I would have hated to work with clowns who were forced into the mil. C1	chicken one (6501)
635216	2008-01-30 07:02:00	I spent 4 years as Database Administrator in a high school. There are a lot of kids who don't want to be there. Some cause trouble when they are 14 and try to get kicked out (setting fire to the school worked for two kids), others truant regularly or quietly drop out. Hard to catch the drop outs at a school with high turnover - particularly at the beginning of the year if their birthday is in the first term. One thing I noticed was that those who's primary record cards showed multiple changes of primary school very rarely had the skills for high school. Nothing gives it away more than picking alternative maths, alternative english and all the "soft" options. These kids were often the ones in the most trouble. If you are going to blame the teachers - which ones and which schools?	Mercury (1316)
635217	2008-01-30 07:20:00	As I remember it Bill Gates left school fairly early in his life.	Sweep (90)
635218	2008-01-30 07:38:00	Yup ^ Just cause someone leaves school early, or doesn't want to be there, doesn't make them instantly stupid, or a 'bad bugga' School isn't for everyone, so don't stereotype the ones that drop out.	--Wolf-- (128)
635219	2008-01-30 08:01:00	Some kids also make their way through school with undiagnosed eyesight problems or things like dyslexia. When my youngest was 8 we discovered she was slightly long sighted (needed +1 glasses). She'd been through the reading recovery program at 6 and no one had picked it or suggested she had a problem. The school had only tested for short sight. My 16 year old nephew is probably slightly dyslexic according to my brother - who also suffers from this to a certain extent.	Mercury (1316)
635220	2008-01-30 08:16:00	School hadnt prepared me for an honest days labour. Mostly wishy washy crap that i have to this day not used. I even learnt maths outside of school as we had 9 math teacher changes in one year, and we had alot of problem students, drugs....the works. School was a waste of time as it was a crap school. Im sure there must be some good schools around. pity we cant choose as younger people.	rob_on_guitar (4196)
635221	2008-01-30 08:18:00	we had 9 math teacher changes in one year Haha really? We had 11 different math teachers last year, and yes it was hard to learn anything, especially when we got to the point of having 3 teachers teach us every week, 2 days for 2 and 1 day for the other. Got tough.	--Wolf-- (128)
635222	2008-01-30 08:31:00	I used to think the responsibility for learning was up to the student with the teacher there as a guide. Until.... One of the papers for my computer degree a few years back. We had a great lecturer but due to other work commitments she didn't teach all classes. We had a combined lecture for one of the two classes in the week. She then took some of the second classes and a tutorial assistant took the others. I had the tutorial assistant for the second class. In our class, with the assistant - no "A"s and half the class failed. I passed! 50%! Total relief! (And I discovered later that some of those who passed had absconded to the other class although they were still listed in our one) In the other class with the lecturer taking both classes marks were higher overall with several "A"s and few fails.	Mercury (1316)
635223	2008-01-30 08:54:00	Stupid as those that don't want to be there will just disrupt those that do.	mikebartnz (21)
635224	2008-01-30 09:35:00	Stupid as those that don't want to be there will just disrupt those that do. Excellent point, that happened at my school.	rob_on_guitar (4196)
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