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Thread ID: 86746	2008-01-27 10:40:00	Question for SurferJoe46	zqwerty (97)	PC World Chat

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634448	2008-01-27 23:23:00	I fully agree with your above view. My question here is: How many garages in NZ (other than those authorised service agents which may cost you lots) have the computer equipment to tune a modern computerized engine? What then would you call a "tune-up" if not those things that don't exist any more? good points.... poor me; my 19 year old bike is carbureted and, until it was rear ended and replaced with a fuel injected model, my car was too:( all the more fun for me then:p though now i know my car can go low on transmission fluid, i still think i'll keep it topped up along with everything else... lots of info there surfer, i'll try to absorb as much as possible! oh and surfer, i hear some auto clutches have cork friction surfaces, which while providing alot of friction seems a bit too soft for that to be sensible; any truth to it?	motorbyclist (188)
634449	2008-01-28 00:14:00	oh and surfer, i hear some auto clutches have cork friction surfaces, which while providing alot of friction seems a bit too soft for that to be sensible; any truth to it? Used to be that the old Single- and Dual-Range Hydramatics and some of the original Loadflites and maybe an early Packard Ultramatic or Hudson Detroit Gear Models DG150, DG200 and the DG250 used the old cork plates . They were sortta good in a strange way . . they like the heat . . . but they wore very fast and died a horrible death . We're talking the early 1950s here . . maybe the late 1940s too . Thankfully, they don't use cork any more . . . not that I think I've ever seen in modern (after 1960 or so) transmissions . Another problem was that cork was very thick and took up so much room that the length of the stacks went on to make the case very long to compensate for the increases in horsepower and torque in modern engines and paper bounded to steel became the new item to use . I could swear that I once opened a 1950s Jetaway that had cork in it . . . but the overhaul kit had paper instead and extra steels to take up the difference in stack height . There might be some low-power or low-torque marine drives that use cork . . and that sounds about right . . but not much in the way of automotive that I can recall except for a few in museums . Low shaft speeds (RPM) and little or no shock loads would be just the right place to use cork I believe . I have rebuilt a few Velva-Touch marine transmissions on the old "Mike boats" that the US Navy used to transport the Marines onto the beach . There were very thick plates of cork/asbestos composition in them . . and well . . . asbestos got banned and I've never seen them since . These Mike boats are the ones that had that big front door that opened forward and soldiers and small vehicles would drive out of them onto a beach . I think McArthur stepped off one of them back into the Philippines right near the end of the war . He had returned . (Yeah . . sure!) . The hundred or so American nurses that he left there and told that there'd be a submarine to pick them up later that day . . . never appeared . The Japanese soldiers tortured and repeatedly raped them for weeks until they died . . but "Ol' Mac" was safe as he took the last transportation out with all his clothes and personal effects not leaving room for the nurses . Sorry for the OT . . .	SurferJoe46 (51)
634450	2008-01-28 00:49:00	good points . . . . poor me; my 19 year old bike is carbureted and, until it was rear ended and replaced with a fuel injected model, my car was too:( oh and surfer, i hear some auto clutches have cork friction surfaces, which while providing alot of friction seems a bit too soft for that to be sensible; any truth to it? If your bike was older you could have had a cork clutch in it as well . The cork could tolerate the oil in the primary drive . Resurfacing involved boiling corks from the local chemist until they could be squeezed into the plate then trimmed .	PaulD (232)
634451	2008-01-28 03:14:00	Thanks for all the info Joe, went to the Nissan outlet today and they said I should get Dextron 3 transmission fluid, they didn't have any so I went to SuperCheap Auto Spares and bought 1 Liter of their version cost NZ$10.15, will put some in as soon as possible.	zqwerty (97)
634452	2008-01-28 03:44:00	Thanks for all the info Joe, went to the Nissan outlet today and they said I should get Dextron 3 transmission fluid, they didn't have any so I went to SuperCheap Auto Spares and bought 1 Liter of their version cost NZ$10.15, will put some in as soon as possible. Great place for filters, Super Cheap. Including ride ons.	Cicero (40)
634453	2008-01-28 04:26:00	Thanks for all the info Joe, went to the Nissan outlet today and they said I should get Dextron 3 transmission fluid, they didn't have any so I went to SuperCheap Auto Spares and bought 1 Liter of their version cost NZ$10 . 15, will put some in as soon as possible . Dexron/Mercon 3 has been phased out here too . . . sorry I forgot about it altogether . It was never as good as Dex 1, but it was all that was available for the longest time here . California is now messing with our engine oils . . . and truckers are having strange engine failures when they get their cross country rigs serviced in this state . It wasn't bad enuff that they killed all the additives in the ATFs and gas engine lube oils . . . now they are killing the diesel big rigs too . I gotta get outta this state! Soon! :help:	SurferJoe46 (51)
634454	2008-01-28 04:34:00	Dexron/Mercon 3 has been phased out here too . . . sorry I forgot about it altogether . It was never as good as Dex 1, but it was all that was available for the longest time here . California is now messing with our engine oils . . . and truckers are having strange engine failures when they get their cross country rigs serviced in this state . It wasn't bad enuff that they killed all the additives in the ATFs and gas engine lube oils . . . now they are killing the diesel big rigs too . I gotta get outta this state! Soon! :help: So much for Arnie . Land of the free,free to bugger things up it would seem .	Cicero (40)
634455	2008-01-28 04:43:00	It isn't Arnie this time . . . it's the "woman" who is now running the AQMD and the BAR . She is setting policies for emissions, vehicle specifications, carbon credits and even headlight power by castrating the present panel members and tossing them out for an all female staff . It bodes badly . She's the only person in the whole of Sacramento who cannot cross her legs when she sits down .	SurferJoe46 (51)
634456	2008-01-28 05:38:00	It isn't Arnie this time . . . it's the "woman" who is now running the AQMD and the BAR . She is setting policies for emissions, vehicle specifications, carbon credits and even headlight power by castrating the present panel members and tossing them out for an all female staff . It bodes badly . She's the only person in the whole of Sacramento who cannot cross her legs when she sits down . Terminator on way,with luck .	Cicero (40)
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