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Thread ID: 86738	2008-01-27 05:35:00	bad roads ??	tweak'e (69)	PC World Chat

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634369	2008-01-27 09:52:00	And the way they "fix" the dangerous roads is by lowering the speed limit. A lot of SH1 between Wellsford & Warkworth is now an 80KM/h limit. Not that that has slowed people down much. Instead of doing 120 most now do 100.	CYaBro (73)
634370	2008-01-27 09:57:00	I'll say!! I traveled between the Chengyang region in China towards the Longji rice terraces on a public bus on this road that was still under construction. That part of the road was 68 Km long and it took us 4.5 hrs to travel it. The public buses in rural China leave a lot to be desired (eg massive overloading as long as the doors can still close, there is still room onboard!!), but man, could this driver drive. I have no idea how we managed to stay on the road and not break an axle except for his skills and determination to get his passengers through. Part of the road (www.imagef1.net.nz). The half hidden blue construction truck indicates just how deep the trenches were. :xmouth: Same in India :lol: I stopped counting how many times we were nearly killed!	beeswax34 (63)
634371	2008-01-27 10:01:00	I drive almost daily on the Helensville/ West Harbour SH 16 so called dangerous road. Its only dangerous because of spoonbill drivers, there is nothing wrong with the road. You get the tailgaters but I have educated a few by slamming the brakes on my truck and let them bang into the towing arm. C1:D :thumbs: :thumbs: And the way they "fix" the dangerous roads is by lowering the speed limit. A lot of SH1 between Wellsford & Warkworth is now an 80KM/h limit. Not that that has slowed people down much. Instead of doing 120 most now do 100. yeah funny how every one seems to catch up very quickly to vechiles that are doing the limit ;) and just like the owera to puhoi 80km aera, its a drag race up the passing lanes.	tweak'e (69)
634372	2008-01-27 12:39:00	bad roads? what about the ones with patchy surfaces, potholes, metal plates at different levels to the rest of the road, cracks, tar snakes, off cambers, and combinations where the road slips down the hill and they just fill the cracks with tar and put seal on to kinda level it up rather than actually rebuilding the thing properly get a bike and you'll realise how bad NZ road surfaces really are, or alternatively just come out to west auckland bad drivers are a different beast entirely (and by bad i mean both the aggressive/dangerous ones and the blind/can't actually control a car ones)	motorbyclist (188)
634373	2008-01-27 20:01:00	Same in India :lol: I stopped counting how many times we were nearly killed! I have driven an old UK Double Decker bus over most of India. Driving through Bombay was quite a challenge. Ox & Carts, Scooters, Taxi's, People etc etc etc to deal with. Meeting Tata trucks on the narrow roads in India can be fun, it is a cat & mouse game as to who pulls over first to let the other past. The tatas used to have no doors on at that stage and throwing a huge banger (large fire cracker) into the cab soon woke them up. We turned an Ox & Cart around one night and sent it back to where it had come from, the driver was sound asleep and did not wake up when we turned it. Naples and Istanbul were the busiest roads i think I have driven on. You fairly much drive those roads with your hand on the horn.	Bantu (52)
634374	2008-01-27 20:05:00	bad roads? what about the ones with patchy surfaces, potholes, metal plates at different levels to the rest of the road, cracks, tar snakes, off cambers, and combinations where the road slips down the hill and they just fill the cracks with tar and put seal on to kinda level it up rather than actually rebuilding the thing properly get a bike and you'll realise how bad NZ road surfaces really are, or alternatively just come out to west auckland bad drivers are a different beast entirely (and by bad i mean both the aggressive/dangerous ones and the blind/can't actually control a car ones) You have obviously not driven anywhere else outside NZ, if not Auckland. Try driving your bike from Iran border up through Pakistan to Amaritsar, India. You will then consider your West Auckland roads like a motorway. Up as far as Quetta we spent about 2 days hardly ever getting past 1st gear.	Bantu (52)
634375	2008-01-27 20:06:00	There is a bad road in the South Island, the one out to Skippers Canyon. Lets see them do the speed limit on that! One problem is people see 100KM and do it (or usually more) regardless of the conditions.	pctek (84)
634376	2008-01-27 20:15:00	There is a bad road in the South Island, the one out to Skippers Canyon. Lets see them do the speed limit on that! One problem is people see 100KM and do it (or usually more) regardless of the conditions. Very true indeed pctek Roads have improved a lot over the years, it is hard for the younger generation to see that. I got my license in early 1960's but was driving at age 8 in trucks on farmers paddocks. A LOT of NZ country then were gravel roads. Probably the amount of gravel roads now would have been the amount of sealed roads back then around the country. Even then the sealed roads were narrower and have been widened and a lot of corners taken off over the past 40 years. There were not so many cars then either. My first car could not do 100Km/h (60MPH), it was max'd out at 80Km/h (50MPH) There is only so much money can be spent on the roads each year, but if the idiots like to exceed the speed limit then if they have an accident and die then bad luck, they brought it upon themselves. I feel sorry for the poor innocents they kill in the process.	Bantu (52)
634377	2008-01-27 20:32:00	If the congestion in Auckland gets much worse you may find j-a-f-a's trying Skipper's Canyon as a possible alternate short cut across town, since nothing else works. A bit like ants finding their way around a poisonous patch. Alas, j-a-f-a's who have only ever driven to and from work on the motorways would be totally confused by speeds above 20KMH.	R2x1 (4628)
634378	2008-01-27 20:37:00	You have obviously not driven anywhere else outside NZ, if not Auckland . Try driving your bike from Iran border up through Pakistan to Amaritsar, India . You will then consider your West Auckland roads like a motorway . Up as far as Quetta we spent about 2 days hardly ever getting past 1st gear . but don't forget most people here havn't driven in any other countries, there is a lot who proberly havn't driven out of auckland! those 80km/h roads mentioed before where 100km/h and in much much worse shape even as little as 10 years ago and the quite easly did excess of a 100km/h without crashing . but now with higher traffic numbers making those little idiot mistakes we all do from time to time goes from opps to grave very easly . two things annoy me, spending heaps on some back country that gets minimal traffic while ingnoring even basic maintance on the countries buisest roads and building roads without thinking about drivers . they need to factor in the human element .	tweak'e (69)
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