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Thread ID: 86949 2008-02-02 19:36:00 Nuclear Power Documentary on TV One last night somebody (208) PC World Chat
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636801 2008-03-14 11:49:00 You seemed to have missed my point altogether, I can't figure out whether it's deliberate obtuseness or just plain stupidity and ignorance.

sorry, i don't see your point either...

there's a limited supply of nuclear reactor parts. so what? it'll just slow construction until added production capacity is built. how is this a reason not to go nuclear? we'd wait out the decade waiting time getting resource consent anyway
motorbyclist (188)
636802 2008-03-14 13:54:00 You seemed to have missed my point altogether, I can't figure out whether it's deliberate obtuseness or just plain stupidity and ignorance.

No, its the and complete and utter reliance on the media on your part.

You said that people are planning a massive expansion into the no. of nuclear plants without considering the bottleneck in the manufacturing of important parts.

But that dilemma exists today in the LCD manufacturing industry too. Yet companies are ramping up usage in volume and capacities even when they DO know that a bottleneck exists.

Ergo, people aren't stupid. Planning takes time. What are we all supposed to do? Wait till capacity is doubled before planning or doing anything? No, thats not how it works. You have to plan for the future so when resources do come on stream, they can utilized quickly and efficiently to prevent any further delays.
beeswax34 (63)
636803 2008-03-14 20:08:00 I would have thought that Bloomberg would be a part of the media you would consider reliable what with your investing background. zqwerty (97)
636804 2008-03-14 20:53:00 Fact Sheet on Reactor Pressure Vessel Issues:

www.nrc.gov

Reactor pressure vessel data:

www.euronuclear.org

Up close and personal with a faulty Nuclear Reactor:

www2.jnes.go.jp

Is this the future you want for NZ:

www2.jnes.go.jp
zqwerty (97)
636805 2008-03-14 23:09:00 Fact Sheet on Reactor Pressure Vessel Issues:

www.nrc.gov

all that to go wrong yet enough safety measures so that the one accident to cause problems was in russia when they ignored those safety measures


Reactor pressure vessel data:

www.euronuclear.org


yes, they must be very strong, and they are, probably with a design safety factor making it ten times stronger than it needs to be... so what?



Up close and personal with a faulty Nuclear Reactor:

www2.jnes.go.jp


they found the problem, no radiation has been leaked, and they then remedied the problem so it won't happen again....

where's the issue?



Is this the future you want for NZ:

www2.jnes.go.jp

yes - except i doubt we'd need more than one for another 50 years yet

it's either one of those (plus reserve) or an impossible number of hydro dams and wind plants
motorbyclist (188)
636806 2008-03-15 01:10:00 I would have thought that Bloomberg would be a part of the media you would consider reliable what with your investing background.

Bloomberg IS reliable but then getting all your news (even for one topic or story) is never a good idea.

Its like posting Fox News' views on the Presidential race only. You have to look at other sources and try to link them together.
beeswax34 (63)
636807 2008-03-15 01:11:00 It has already been said that we would need at least two to allow for maintenance on the other one or more of them. zqwerty (97)
636808 2008-03-15 02:06:00 It has already been said that we would need at least two to allow for maintenance on the other one or more of them.

Just one if there is enough space capacity to take over when its shut down for maintenance which we do have currently. We need to have the capacity anyway for backup in case there is a scram.
beeswax34 (63)
636809 2008-03-15 02:09:00 It has already been said that we would need at least two to allow for maintenance on the other one or more of them.

We would need at least two anyway, to keep up with our growing demand for power. At the rate our power demand increases a year, over the 10-15 year build time involved in a nuclear power plant, our power demand would have grown by 3500-4750MW (based on current forecasts of 350-400MW per year), which is equivalent to 3-4 of the latest generation French nuclear power plants.
somebody (208)
636810 2008-03-15 07:18:00 It seems that the Major drawback with nuclear is that like wind the system generates a limited amount of electricity when it can, rather than lots when needed. Hydro can store incoming water, and drop as peak demand happens, which is why we are going to need truckloads of hydro providing about 50% of our power even if we do have wind-farms all over the place and/or a nuke. I'm assuming that burning fossil fuels to generate peak power is eventually ruled out due to it's soon to be prohibitivly costly.

Another part solution is LED's
Come on people.. these little gems of efficiency are taking over stage lighting, and yet the more frequently used household light is still one of those hopelessly inefficient fluorescent mini bulbs, or worse still a super heated wire in a glass bubble! what a joke!
Here is a way that we the people can reduce the need, or at least delay the need for nuclear power!
Rip out them bubbles and place strings of LEDs into your homes now!
yeah....

Me goes back now to wiring up strings of LEDs into a panel destined for house truck, and a couple of strings for the garden lights............
personthingy (1670)
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