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Thread ID: 86949 2008-02-02 19:36:00 Nuclear Power Documentary on TV One last night somebody (208) PC World Chat
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636751 2008-02-05 02:31:00 It is a tough call . I'm sympathetic to Zquerty's views which urge caution . Ultimately I agree with Motorbyclist that nuclear is the most environmentally sensitive and efficent power source .

The problem is we'd need two - one for spare while fuel rods are changed in the other .

There is no popular call to get rid of nuclear plants in the countries which have them . Certainly there are small groups who do and fair enough but they don't get any traction . Everyone likes and expects electricity - we even had it argued in NZ that it was a basic human right - when the lady died 'cos the power was cut off . . . . .
Winston001 (3612)
636752 2008-02-05 03:10:00 Why not put the nuclear pwer station on the Snares island

c1
chicken one (6501)
636753 2008-02-05 04:07:00 It is a tough call . I'm sympathetic to Zquerty's views which urge caution . Ultimately I agree with Motorbyclist that nuclear is the most environmentally sensitive and efficent power source .

The problem is we'd need two - one for spare while fuel rods are changed in the other .

There is no popular call to get rid of nuclear plants in the countries which have them . Certainly there are small groups who do and fair enough but they don't get any traction . Everyone likes and expects electricity - we even had it argued in NZ that it was a basic human right - when the lady died 'cos the power was cut off . . . . .

No, not really . We could have a multi reactor power plant which means that while one reactor was under maintenance, the other half would still be able to supply power and other power sources would be able to handle the load until everything was 100% again .
beeswax34 (63)
636754 2008-02-05 04:11:00 Why not put the nuclear pwer station on the Snares island

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because of the cost to run a cable to auckland, the fact that we'd need several backups to prevent a nationwide blackout, no-one lets you build said cables due to unfounded nimby, and the horrific power losses in transmission the length of the country


plus we might hurt the penguins:lol:
motorbyclist (188)
636755 2008-02-05 04:36:00 From an Ex Nuclear man on PWRs

You need

A safe place to put 2 units (one to continue when other comes off line ) Quake vulnerability adds enormous building costs even if built near Timaru (safest geological place i'm told )

A technology base nearby

A Local belief that Nuclear is acceptable ( or get green incursions which will make it unsafe)

An acceptable RAD waste storage facility for low intermediate and Hi Level waste

A Tax payer base that can afford to run the thing - Dont think 4.1 Mill is enough even if all were tax payers

Must be on someones refuelling run ( you cant have a dedicated team waiting around for you to change fuel Run eddy current tests etc etc ) The French did ours as they helped build the station (2 x 980 MW PWR units)

A stable grid - PWRs are not load following Geothermal Steam and coal units are

The training of suitable scientific staff in New Zealand is ZILCH !!

An overseeing Independent Authority to ensure Safety (Dont think the IAEA works out here ?)

Hope this helps ??
IanForsyth (1696)
636756 2008-02-05 05:11:00 yes

And if you are for nuclear power try watching the movie K-19 the widowmaker, about a Russian submarine.

Its a good movie and very moving

Regards

Digby
Digby (677)
636757 2008-02-05 05:26:00 Anyone interested in this topic might also be interested in Denis Dutton's new site........ http://climatedebatedaily.com/ :2cents:
I gave up on last night's programme when they brought on that silly old duffer from the New Zealand Green Party.
Thanks for that S,I am a Denis Dutton fan.
Cicero (40)
636758 2008-02-05 05:38:00 There are 439 nuclear power reactors in operation in the world, operating in 31 countries with more to come in the next few years.
Without them half of Europe and USA would be without electricity.

All the population are concerned about is having a continuous reliable power supply. When we start having blackouts here we might start to get realistic.
It is the nature of man to have Luddites in it's midst.
Cicero (40)
636759 2008-02-05 09:43:00 Nuclear power may be alright in theory, but could you trust it to cool your beer?

If we must have one, stick it in the beehive. We could be fairly sure the politicians would discourage short cuts in safety precautions.
In the event of emergency, there is no other building in NZ so admirably suited to being entombed in concrete.
R2x1 (4628)
636760 2008-02-10 18:11:00 Alas it doesn't look safe....
here is a great site to show accidents since 1940.
Quite a large amount....
www.nuclearfiles.org
porkster (6331)
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