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Thread ID: 87109 2008-02-08 06:36:00 Pilots stabbed in hijack bid Bantu (52) PC World Chat
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638562 2008-02-09 09:10:00 Throwing them off is a really good deterrent. Whoops...

Very capital punishment. Lol. It's the way things should work, in the Bible somewhere it's mentioned if there is a piece of your body that causes you to do wrong, you should part company with it. While being a little extreme, it would work.

In the way of plane hijackers, unfortunately, this means parting company with their heads, so throwing them out achieves the same end and is much less stressful and there is no mess created. :thumbs:
wratterus (105)
638563 2008-02-10 19:29:00 Seems to me everyone is over re-acting.

The woman was simply a "nut case",

It was one of those things that can not be 100% guarded against.

More serious is the matter of "extra screening" etc. that a few are advocating. Something that would increase air fares and upset the ignored majority.

If the event occured on a bus or train it would have been forgotten within 24 hours.

What does need explaining is why the woman was still running aroung making threats etc for the duration of the flight. Was everyone scared of her?
JJJJJ (528)
638564 2008-02-10 20:00:00 Seems to me everyone is over re-acting.

The woman was simply a "nut case",

It was one of those things that can not be 100% guarded against.

More serious is the matter of "extra screening" etc. that a few are advocating. Something that would increase air fares and upset the ignored majority.

If the event occured on a bus or train it would have been forgotten within 24 hours.

What does need explaining is why the woman was still running around making threats etc for the duration of the flight. Was everyone scared of her?

I agree completely with that. She should be punished...but security doesn't really need to be beefed up. We'll all need to check in 8 hours before departure so we can all be frisked and out luggage gone through piece by piece to fly from nelson to Christchurch.

I think the addition of metal detectors on each gate at airports would be a sensible idea. Not too time consuming, but would be reasonably affective with knives etc.
wratterus (105)
638565 2008-02-10 20:44:00 What does need explaining is why the woman was still running aroung making threats etc for the duration of the flight. Was everyone scared of her?

She did have a knife and claimed that there were bombs onboard so I guess that would have put people off tackling her. Otherwise it should have been quite easy for someone to grab her from behind and hold her down in that tiny little plane. There wasn't much room for her to do much struggling.
FoxyMX (5)
638566 2008-02-10 21:09:00 I don't see what her immigration status has to do with it. Besides, the poor woman was beaten and raped after escaping her dissintigrating country. Horrible things happen in those camps, and under the same circumstances many of you would be just as nutty. It's only natural for her to want her family to come here too, just put yourself in her situation.

I'm not trying to justify what she did, just to moderate some of the comments in this thread. She needs psychiatric help, which as a NZ resident she has every right to.
Thebananamonkey (7741)
638567 2008-02-10 21:15:00 ...What does need explaining is why the woman was still running aroung making threats etc for the duration of the flight. Was everyone scared of her?

Total agreement with the rest of your post.

But "running around"? Last time I was in an Eagle Air plane was 25 years ago. From what I remember there wasn't too much space to move let alone run around.

Makes it a bit difficult to do a flying rugby tackle and the close confinement would have made it incredibly dangerous for anyone to intervene.

Then there's the age, fitness level, risk level of the passengers. I know that I wouldn't be able to tackle anyone in that situation (I would be more likely to be the passenger who tried to calm things down and got hurt).
Mercury (1316)
638568 2008-02-10 23:53:00 She did have a knife and claimed that there were bombs onboard so I guess that would have put people off tackling her. Otherwise it should have been quite easy for someone to grab her from behind and hold her down in that tiny little plane. There wasn't much room for her to do much struggling.

There was an article in one of the major newspapers saying that a woman was injured while trying to restrain her (albeit unsuccessfully).
somebody (208)
638569 2008-02-11 01:07:00 I don't see what her immigration status has to do with it. Besides, the poor woman was beaten and raped after escaping her dissintigrating country. Horrible things happen in those camps, and under the same circumstances many of you would be just as nutty. It's only natural for her to want her family to come here too, just put yourself in her situation.

I'm not trying to justify what she did, just to moderate some of the comments in this thread. She needs psychiatric help, which as a NZ resident she has every right to.

Yes, she MIGHT have been raped and beaten so that makes it OK for her to threaten other human beings who are ALSO citizens of NZ. Don't they deserve the same protection and help that you want to offer her? Lock her up or deport her, she's a criminal nothing more.

I'd love for you to explain the 9/11 hi-jackings.
beeswax34 (63)
638570 2008-02-11 01:22:00 Again this brings NZ's immigration policy into the spotlight. How do so many nut cases like that woman get in? And why do so many real genuinely good people that can contribute to this country get denied? jason_f90 (3544)
638571 2008-02-11 21:05:00 Yes, she MIGHT have been raped and beaten so that makes it OK for her to threaten other human beings who are ALSO citizens of NZ. Don't they deserve the same protection and help that you want to offer her? Lock her up or deport her, she's a criminal nothing more.

I'd love for you to explain the 9/11 hi-jackings.

Well it really depends whether you want to look at what she did from a punitive or a rehabilitative scope. Punitive, she does it again until a policeman has to shoot her, rehabilitative, maybe we might create a well balanced individual who has half a chance of contributing to our society. Who's questioning whether she was raped? And who said it was ok what she did? Everyone in NZ deserves protection, including her. She's a NZ resident now, so just deporting her is the lazy way out. We accepted her, now we have to help pick up the pieces. It's called compassion, and it's what good people do to help out people in worse positions than ourselves.
Thebananamonkey (7741)
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